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    Quote Originally Posted by andre3k View Post
    I learned something. Reading the link showed this powder to be ideal. I was ignorant of its usefulness since I'm locked in to a giant supply of older powders. Will buy a can.

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    Anyone tried to sub in Alliant's more-recent Sport Pistol? The recipes are not quite as extensive as BE-86.

    I've been told by some reloading friends that it is now the first choice for polymer-coated bullets. (I'm mostly stuck on jacketed bullets.)

    Anyone?

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    No direct experience with Sport Pistol here, but the charge weights I see listed for 9mm match up pretty closely with N320 and/or Titegroup, so it's probably on the fast end of the spectrum. A friend of mine recently started using it for his USPSA loads and seems happy so far for that purpose. I'll definitely be interested to pick up a pound to try out when my current stash of N320 runs low, but I don't think it's really a substitute for Unique.

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    I'm interested in Alliant Sport Pistol too. The Alliant webpage for Sport Pistol has published loads for all of the OP's calibers, with the exception of .41 Mag/special.

    http://www.alliantpowder.com/product...rt-pistol.aspx

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    I've been using Winchester's Super Field (WSF) for about 8 years now and it meets all of my needs. It burns at a rate that appears to be pretty close to Unique according to this chart on Hodgon's site. it burns clean, it can be used to safely load up through +P levels and it has the added benefit of smelling good too.

    Oh, it's also a small ball powder so it meters very well. It's not an overly bulky powder though but for standard pressure 9mm loads (124gr) the brass is almost 50% full; double-charges become very obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Watson View Post
    Universal (clays) is said to be a Unique equivalent.
    And CSB1M is a Universal equivalent. I bought a ton of it cheap and use it in 9mm and .45acp, but there isn't much data for anything else. I have read guys who are working with it in other calibers.
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    For me, pistol powders are Bullseye, Unique, 2400 and H110. Mebbe, some day, I'll try some of that new stuff.

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    I have never tried to standardize on just one powder - I would need at least two - one "medium burn rate" and one "slow burn rate". The closest I have to the "one" powder is WSF.

    However, I got caught once without enough powder on hand and the market went crazy. I have multiple pistol powders that I bought when I shot anything I could get on the shelf. I hope to never be reloading component short again.

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    All - Thanks for the feedback! I've narrowed it down to CFE-Pistol and BE-86. The deciding factor will probably be whichever is on sale on payday.

    Some notes...

    I went through a pound of WSF, actually worked up a load for .357 Magnum with 158-grain LRNs. I had to do that blind since there's no revolver data out there that I could find. It was pretty nice, though.

    I'll never use HS6 again. I thought it was discontinued about ten years ago. I think the only powders that leave more unburnt powder are 1F and 2F. 3F is about equal.

    I no longer hunt, so the .41 and .44 Mags are fun guns. Full power loads through them are not fun, at least for my 66-year-old body. I'm pretty sure a 240-grain LSWC at 1000 fps will penetrate anything that walks east of the Mississippi. That's well within medium-speed powder range. If I end up spending time in the Rockies, I'll just buy a pound of 296.

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    I don't know what you went with, but I like CFE pistol for semi-auto cartridges. I found it very position sensitive in .38 158gr SWC loads. It just didn't fill enough of the case and was very inconsistent in velocity. It's fine for WC loads.
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