If I decide on the Charter 41mag ... Im not concerned about the Charter QC ... Being I have owned Charters for over 30yrs and I have two in my carry rotation and another in my safe ... Two Alumium framed 38spl and a 44spl .. About the only reason I wouldn't purchase one is that I own a 44spl Bulldog ... and I have alot of range time with the 44spl ...
Which is a lower pressure round and really like a 38spl on steroids...
And I have a Glock 29 & 20 which are my main woods carry pistols....
This thread (and others) has me thinking about the .45 LC version of this gun.
Lots of cowboy ammo available as well as some more modern defensive loads.
I love my .41 mag, but it is a handloaders gun. There are no factory .41 special loads which is what that gun needs, and factory ammo is very expensive.
Then you need to consider what the .41 mag excels at, which is a flat shooting magnum level cartridge made to take a long handgun shot with terminal ballistics on par with a .44 mag. It's also good to know why it failed, which is because the recoil in the police loads was excessive from the 4" heavy N frames like the model 57 or 58s.
Charter Arms QC notwithstanding, those things would prevent me from going for a snub barrel medium framed gun when there are options like .38 or .357 or .44sp in a charter arms that won't pound the crap out of the gun's timing.
To me, the .41 excels as an accurate, long range (for a handgun) cartridge and is best at home in a large framed gun with a 4" or greater barrel to take advantage of the greater velocity and flatter trajectory over the .44 mag.
It can certainly be used as a defensive arm, but as a primary defensive arm, it's hamstrung by quite a few drawbacks...not the least of which is cost.
IMO that's the reason that there aren't many snubby .41s as well.
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For use as a defensive pistol, recoil will affect accuracy as well as shot to shot speed, either or both of which could become critical in a situation you may face.
Re: woods guns, I would recommend looking in the semiauto section for GJM’s thread on field pistols. He found the 10mm Glocks to be less than perfectly reliable with the heavy 10mm loads you really want for that purpose, and ended up going with some specific HK .45 pistols that are rated for .45 Super ammo. He uses Underwood penetrator ammo.
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I see what you mean .. I have done a little research and it seems the Winchester 41mag 175gr Silvertip maybe a good option as a SD opinion.. Even though it is thought as a downloaded 41 mag cartridge .. It is still would be a handful in a 23 oz revolver...
This makes think about being happy with my Charter Bulldog in 44spl...
How well will the .41 Magnum 175 grain Silvertip bullet perform out of a barrel that short?
Your only way to find out may be home hobbyist ballistics tests on YouTube, which are of dubious value.
The .41 Magnum is an excellent solution for a small number of problems. I'm not sure this is one of them.
I was into 10mm Auto before it sold out and went mainstream, but these days I'm here for the revolver and epidemiology information.
How much do you shoot them? Nothing personal, but years of owning is largely irrelevant to the durability of a gun.
To answer the question, no, I wouldn't. Having investigated hundreds of shootings, my recommendation is to stick with common duty calibers and a heavy-for-caliber loading with a bullet that retains mass (ie, nothing that fragments, sheds a jacket, etc.) Other then expense and hipsterism, you gain nothing going to the more "exotic" calibers. Ammo manufacturers know where the bulk of the market is and their R&D is geared toward that. You won't find anyone optimizing a short barrel .41 mag load because the five people who'd be interested in it aren't worth the cost.
Cowboy loads in short barrel guns perform poorly. I've had a .44 penetrate the victim's abdomen to about 6", which is insufficient.
Other than as a hand-held flashbang I can't think of any reason I'd want to use a .41 magnum short barrel. There are too many proven, cost effective, and readily available alternatives.
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