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    Ugh. OK if they move to DC but many will move to NOVA and some will be horrified by the still-permissive VA gun laws. Shall-issue permits...the horror. Hate to think of the damage the richest man in the world could do if he decided to fund a disarmament initiative. VA is already vulnerable.

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    This probably won't happen again (but it's pretty legendary):

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    "The recession came as The Boeing Company, the region's largest employer, went from a peak of 100,800 employees in 1967 to a low of 38,690 in April 1971."

    http://www.historylink.org/File/1287

    If Amazon does move, I doubt it will change the Seattle/Central Puget Sound area's utopian dreams (head taxes on employers, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGS View Post
    Expanding their HQ by 50,000!? That would be.....something.

    The article I read said they were relocating. Bezos bought a $23 million mansion in DC.
    Didn’t we have some posts this years around a TED Talk given by Nick Hanauer about how all the plutocrats need pay employees at least $15/hr or risk being swept away by the angry mobs? I seem to recall him citing Seattle as a shining example of these economic distortions in practice. Well, it looks like the plutocrats decided to leave.

    However, the real reason that Amazon moved is to be closer to areas of political influence. Bezos just bought a bunch of leftist politicians so that he can undercut his competition with these tax breaks. It was an investment.

    As much as I hate to say it, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has a very good point regarding the tax shelters for Amazon. They put Amazon’s competition at a disadvantage. Many of us (myself included) have rediculed this woman as an idiot. On this issue she is absolutely correct, and we should all start asking ourselves if the downstream risks from this political-economic machine is worth the convenience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    ...Nick Hanauer <spit!> ....
    FIFY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zincwarrior View Post
    This time the socialist is 100%correct. This is bad corporate welfare.
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by modrecoil View Post
    Ugh. OK if they move to DC but many will move to NOVA and some will be horrified by the still-permissive VA gun laws. Shall-issue permits...the horror. Hate to think of the damage the richest man in the world could do if he decided to fund a disarmament initiative. VA is already vulnerable.
    Ssshhhh.

    WA still has legal unpermitted open carry of handguns and shall-issue permitting for concealed carry. Show up at any LEO office in the state, pay the monies, pass a background check, and they mail it to you. Although if you're a resident, I think you might be required to do the business at the cop shop in your own town. It's been a couple years.

    Shows you how far the state has been dragged, with most of it kicking and screaming. And how far there is left to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RevolverRob View Post
    My understanding is, they aren't pulling out of Seattle, they are just expanding. Maybe I miss understood?
    They’re not pulling out in the same way that your spouse moving in with someone else isn’t leaving you.


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    I think the writing is on the wall for the long haul. In the short term, they’ve got way too much wrapped up in Seattle to just leave; it’s not like Amazon is living in the back of a van. Pulling out of just the new skyscraper project would reportedly leave them on the hook for an impossible-to-fill lease that costs more than the head tax. Amazon accounts for 20 percent of office occupancy in DT Seattle. That figure cuts both ways.
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    A news report on what Atlanta offered them to set up around here:

    https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/in-...-hq2/872616691
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    From NPR:

    Amazon will no longer build its additional headquarters in New York City.

    The decision announced Thursday comes after an outcry from local politicians, union leaders and community organizers who had organized weeks of protests against massive financial breaks promised to Amazon, one of the world's most valuable companies.

    It is also a big reversal of its much-hyped decision to build the campus in Queens after a highly publicized nationwide search that lasted over a year.

    An Amazon spokeswoman told NPR that the company plans no further negotiations with city and state officials in New York, where the firm has faced scathing criticism in recent City Council hearings. One key issue was the almost $3 billion in state and city tax incentives Amazon was slated to receive in exchange for creating some 25,000 jobs.

    Local union leaders had organized protests against the company and have accused it of anti-union behavior. Also, the state's Senate leader recently nominated an ardent critic of Amazon's deal to the state board that would have had control over Amazon's plan for Queens.

    "A number of state and local politicians have made it clear that they oppose our presence and will not work with us to build the type of relationships that are required to go forward with the project we and many others envisioned in Long Island City," Amazon said in a statement, citing a recent poll it had commissioned showing that the majority of New Yorkers supported Amazon's presence.

    New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said Amazon was throwing away an opportunity by pulling out of the deal.

    "You have to be tough to make it in New York City," he tweeted. "We gave Amazon the opportunity to be a good neighbor and do business in the greatest city in the world. Instead of working with the community, Amazon threw away that opportunity."

    Amazon said it will not search for a new location for another HQ to replace New York City. This leaves the company with its main headquarters in Seattle and a second one planned for Northern Virginia. New York City will remain one of Amazon's biggest hubs, and the company says it will invest in its existing teams there.
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