CZ SP-01: Asking too much?

[ArgentFix]

The CZ 75 SP-01 Tactical checks all the boxes I want in a nightstand gun: Heavy, high capacity, night sights, DA/SA hammer, decocker, rail. But the damn thing is cursed.

First 400 rounds were Winchester 124gr NATO. 1 stovepipe and several fail to lock back on factory mags. Then 200 S&B 124, 1 fail to lock back. Then 500 Independence Aluminum 115gr with 1 stovepipe. Then I bought 4 Mec-Gar 19 round magazines and ran 600 S&B 124gr with 3 stovepipes and most recently 1 extraction failure (image below). I feel like at 1700 rounds this gun should be running smooth and reliable but it isn't. I've contacted CZ but I'm wondering: Am I asking too much from this gun?



Edit: oops I meant to put this in the semi-auto forum

[GJM]

The two band new Shadow 2 pistols I bought last spring both had similar problems and required a trip back to CZ. They paid shipping and fixed them. Send it back for repair.

[1911Nut]

I have two CZ 75B SP01 Shadow pistols from CZ Custom, a CZ 97B from CZ Custom, and a CZ 75 SP01 (non-Shadow) from Cajun Gunworks. All the 9mm pistols have been getting a good workout for the past year in IDPA matches, and just recently started trying the CZ 97B in CDP class in that game.

The only issues I have had with any of them were remedied when I installed +10 magazine springs from Greg Cote in the CZ OEM magazines and had KS Custom Guns slightly lengthen the throat in both Shadow pistols. (So far, zero problems with the .45.)

[miller_man]

Back when I had my first CZ (p-01) - I found out about CZ’s having pretty short & tight chambers. I found it to be somewhat picky on certain ammo with longer COAL. Could be some of that? Also, any chance inadvertently hitting the slide release?

[TheNewbie]

The CZ 75 SP-01 Tactical checks all the boxes I want in a nightstand gun: Heavy, high capacity, night sights, DA/SA hammer, decocker, rail. But the damn thing is cursed.

First 400 rounds were Winchester 124gr NATO. 1 stovepipe and several fail to lock back on factory mags. Then 200 S&B 124, 1 fail to lock back. Then 500 Independence Aluminum 115gr with 1 stovepipe. Then I bought 4 Mec-Gar 19 round magazines and ran 600 S&B 124gr with 3 stovepipes and most recently 1 extraction failure (image below). I feel like at 1700 rounds this gun should be running smooth and reliable but it isn't. I've contacted CZ but I'm wondering: Am I asking too much from this gun?



Edit: oops I meant to put this in the semi-auto forum

Did you ever get your CZ working properly?

[ArgentFix]

Could someone move this to the semi-auto forum? Thanks!

Did you ever get your CZ working properly?

Unfortunately no.

After posting this I ran another 600 S&B 124gr with different combinations of lube & mags, carefully checking my grip and such. Same results, possibly more frequent. I sent the gun to CZ and got it back 3 weeks later. They replaced the slide stop (which, curiously, fixed the FTBLEs I traced to a single magazine), recoil spring, and extractor spring. That seemed reasonable but then the extraction/ejection problems got worse:

300 Blazer Brass 124gr: 3 FTEj, 1 FTFeed, 1 FTEx
300 Lawman 124gr: 2 FTEj 1 FTFeed

So I sent it back again to CZ a few days ago. Cory there tells me the gun will go to the front of the line, and more extensive testing will be done by a different gunsmith.

[TheNewbie]

Could someone move this to the semi-auto forum? Thanks!



Unfortunately no.

After posting this I ran another 600 S&B 124gr with different combinations of lube & mags, carefully checking my grip and such. Same results, possibly more frequent. I sent the gun to CZ and got it back 3 weeks later. They replaced the slide stop (which, curiously, fixed the FTBLEs I traced to a single magazine), recoil spring, and extractor spring. That seemed reasonable but then the extraction/ejection problems got worse:

300 Blazer Brass 124gr: 3 FTEj, 1 FTFeed, 1 FTEx
300 Lawman 124gr: 2 FTEj 1 FTFeed

So I sent it back again to CZ a few days ago. Cory there tells me the gun will go to the front of the line, and more extensive testing will be done by a different gunsmith.

@Tom_Jones



I held one at the gun store today and really liked it. This and a CZ Rami would be a neat combo.

[willie]

In the past extractor issues were seen frequently in the 75 series CZ's. Replacing the spring became a knee jerk response. You will receive either a new pistol or one with a new extractor. If the latter, I would trade this pistol in on a new Beretta. I like CZ's and have owned many. I have two that function. I never had one that did not have a defective trigger return spring. They should have fixed it the first time.

[Bobert1035]

Interesting, and frustrating I'm sure.

Bottom line to me is no, you are not asking too much.