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Thread: Russia's Only Aircraft Carrier Damaged by Sinking Dry Dock

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    Happened to a British battleship, the HMS Valiant in WW2

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    That thing is a floating embarrassment. It's OK Russia, you don't need the damn thing just come to terms with the situation and scuttle the poor floating environmental hazard. US aircraft carriers are extremely hazardous environments; combine that inherent danger with the classic Soviet style of cutting any corners possible and you have a disaster waiting to happen.

    I wonder if the Chinese ship in that class has this many problems? You never hear much about it in the news but that may just be due to lack of use.
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    Propelled by notoriously unreliable oil-burning turbo-pressurized boilers and steam turbines—the Kuznetsov had so many propulsion failures that it had to be accompanied by a seagoing tug just in case
    I suppose they could have installed a Chernobyl grade reactor instead.
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    I suppose they could have installed a Chernobyl grade reactor instead.
    Would of been more exciting.

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    Kuznetsov is so full of fail.

    The powerplant fails so often that ocean-going tugs accompany Kuznetsov wherever it goes.

    Kuznetsov has managed all of four deployments since joining the fleet in 1991. Four.

    The plumbing has a tendency to freeze in the winter. So they just shut off water to 60% of the rooms and half the latrines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chance View Post
    No. The Navy had a class of pressure-fired ships (Garcia/Brooke) that did not smoke like that. The ships were maintenance hogs, primarily because of their engineering plants, but they still sailed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbrimlow View Post
    Kuznetsov is so full of fail.

    The plumbing has a tendency to freeze in the winter. So they just shut off water to 60% of the rooms and half the latrines.
    Good design for a ship that operates above the Arctic Circle. (Stalin would have had the design engineers shot.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbrimlow View Post
    Kuznetsov is so full of fail.

    The powerplant fails so often that ocean-going tugs accompany Kuznetsov wherever it goes.

    Kuznetsov has managed all of four deployments since joining the fleet in 1991. Four.

    The plumbing has a tendency to freeze in the winter. So they just shut off water to 60% of the rooms and half the latrines.
    That's compartments and heads, wog.
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    At the end of the cold war we had a period called Glasnost, a Russian term loosely defined as "transparent and open". I had the opportunity to go aboard a couple of Soviet warships. That experience confirmed two things I'd long suspected: it really sucked sack being a Soviet sailor and the only reason the Soviet Navy was a threat was due entirely to numbers. Their ships were, by and large, poorly maintained and crews were poorly trained. They just had a ton of everything to throw at us.
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