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    I'm located in a Reserve Center, and I can tell you that, in accordance with latest guidance from SECDEF, they're tossing long-term medically restricted members out with pitch forks now. Effective a couple months back, if you have a medical condition that makes you inelligible to deploy to a combat zone that lasts more than 12 months, you MUST be administratively separated. So, staying in the Army might not be a long term solution for the OP.

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    Thoughts on coming over from being an Army officer

    Quote Originally Posted by psalms144.1 View Post
    I'm located in a Reserve Center, and I can tell you that, in accordance with latest guidance from SECDEF, they're tossing long-term medically restricted members out with pitch forks now. Effective a couple months back, if you have a medical condition that makes you inelligible to deploy to a combat zone that lasts more than 12 months, you MUST be administratively separated. So, staying in the Army might not be a long term solution for the OP.
    Dammit.

    I kinda understand, but I wish the way the world worked was that they would pitch out the ones that never went in harm’s way to make room for those who have already sacrificed their bodies to continue to contribute in other ways if they desire.

    Well that’s not quite it either because I also respect the sacrifices that everyone have made, but you get my point.

    Edited: my terminology was bugging me.
    Last edited by luckyman; 10-22-2018 at 01:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyman View Post
    Dammit.

    I kinda understand, but I wish the way the world worked was that they would pitch out the ones that never went in harm’s way to make room for those who have already sacrificed their bodies to continue to contribute in other ways if they desire.

    Well that’s not quite it either because I also respect the sacrifices that everyone have made, but you get my point.

    Edited: my terminology was bugging me.
    Pretty sure the new deploy or out guidelines exempt WIA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSP552 View Post
    Pretty sure the new deploy or out guidelines exempt WIA.
    1. Oh good. In the post I was replying to it was sounding like that was not the case.

    2. I was also thinking about stuff like jacked-up backs from humping heavy rucks all the time, etc., not just WIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyman View Post
    1. Oh good. In the post I was replying to it was sounding like that was not the case.

    2. I was also thinking about stuff like jacked-up backs from humping heavy rucks all the time, etc., not just WIA
    Buddy of mine has been dealing with a long term neck/back injury from an MRAP rollover in Afghanistan back in the day. He got the word a couple weeks back that he can medically retire or be processed out. No other options.

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    So I've been talking to a few different guys on the federal side and it does sound like that would be a better fit for me. However, the length of the hiring process is concerning as timing that with ETS from the Army would likely be difficult. Assuming it takes 2-3 years to get picked up, what are the thoughts of working for a local or state agency in the meantime? I'm wondering if that's pretty common or if its a giant middle finger to the agency for jumping ship in such a short time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psalms144.1 View Post
    Buddy of mine has been dealing with a long term neck/back injury from an MRAP rollover in Afghanistan back in the day. He got the word a couple weeks back that he can medically retire or be processed out. No other options.
    That just sucks. No other way to say it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    So I've been talking to a few different guys on the federal side and it does sound like that would be a better fit for me. However, the length of the hiring process is concerning as timing that with ETS from the Army would likely be difficult. Assuming it takes 2-3 years to get picked up, what are the thoughts of working for a local or state agency in the meantime? I'm wondering if that's pretty common or if its a giant middle finger to the agency for jumping ship in such a short time.
    Many of my Fed LE buddies had prior law enforcement experience. It’s also not uncommon for states to take a yr or more to hire also. At least in Louisiana, local agencies seem to have a much quicker hiring process. I know my old agency, Louisiana State Police, hired a lit of veterans, some after mil retirement. While Fed LE still has a max hiring age, local and state typically doesn’t.

    LSP’s pay is pretty good and they have the best retirement system in the country. 3.3% a yr and you can retire at 100% salary. Finding a local or state agency that you could be happy with for awhile isn’t a bad idea.

    Best of luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSP552 View Post
    Lots of good advice in this thread. I hope this isn’t a derailment but have you considered a federal position as a Contracting Officer? You can look at the 1102 series, Contract Specialist. As an active duty logistics officer, you may already be, or may be able to work on your DAWIA contracting certification while active duty.

    I’m a former Army EM from the Stone Age, retired Louisiana State Police Capt, who currently works as a Contract Specialist for the Army Contracting Command. There is a real sense of mission where I work. Just wanted to toss that out to you if you decide law enforcement isn’t where you want to go.

    If I was starting a LE career today, it would be Federal for sure. Good luck!

    Feel free to PM me if you want additional information on the 1102 series.
    Also, from an industry perspective, COs are very attractive to us when they exit as corresponding contracting executives.

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    Speaking only for municipal LE, the hiring process takes a while and there may be age limits. Both PD and FD where I worked required that you could not be hired once you turned 31. City, county, and state pensions are all different so you have to check by the area or department you're interested in. During probation you will be in patrol, and at least a few more years after that before you have a chance to do anything else. Bigger departments have more opportunities, but more competition for those spots.

    Departments will see your maturity and experience as pros, while seeing your age and bad knee as cons. The city admin where I worked was acutely aware of how much they were paying in work comp and always looking to reduce it. Hiring a pre-injured guy in one of two departments (PD/FD) where everybody gets hurt eventually would not have happened.

    If I had your experience today, I wouldn't even consider local LE.
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