Shooting incidents in the news.

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I'm gonna be done, but...

reporting rate =/= incident rate, and increased media coverage will result in increased reporting every time.

and until someone is keeping actual records on this shit, you really don't have a reporting rate OR and incident rate.

it's just like the BLM "too many black people are being killed by police". Ok, that sucks. how many? When? Why? what were they doing when they got shot? Oh, we don't have those records? Cool story bro.

Again, this is why we HAVE TO un-fuck education.

The entire country is being led around by a media that's only out to sell more ads.

We're basing policy, and elections, on "statistics" when most of the motherfuckers crying about this injustice or that can't even spell "statistics" and think that news/media = reality (or, when they're reinforcing their worries it does).

Even worse, most of them don't even have the basic understanding of mathematics required to understand statistics. So now we have to teach these idiots, English, arithmetic, and THEN statistics.

Since stats are needed for some to believe here, let's try this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/aaronsm...h=6e4e12fd3edd

More Asian-Americans Are Buying Guns For Protection From Hate Crimes

"Hate crimes against Asian-Americans surged 149% in 2020, while overall hate crimes fell 7%, according to a study based on police statistics by the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino. The researchers found that hate crimes spiked in March and April 2020 “amidst a rise in Covid cases and negative stereotyping of Asians relating to the pandemic.”

Now the problem I have with statistics is that it's only as good as it's source wants it to be and many times it has been politicized to fit the narratives agenda.

But here you go, here are some stats.

[Ichiban]

[/B]Now the problem I have with statistics is that it's only as good as it's source wants it to be and many times it has been politicized to fit the narratives agenda.

[757_Magnum]

... most of the motherfuckers crying about this injustice or that can't even spell "statistics" and think that news/media = reality (or, when they're reinforcing their worries it does).

Even worse, most of them don't even have the basic understanding of mathematics required to understand statistics. So now we have to teach these idiots, English, arithmetic, and THEN statistics.

That's odd. I'm pretty sure I can spell "statistics", and that also goes for my friends and family. As far as math, well... you know what they say about Asian kids and math . It's funny that you demand statistics to back this issue up, yet you're willing to make ridiculous generalizations about an entire population.

Statistics are fine for looking at historical trends and saying "Hmm, these numbers have risen steadily over the past decade", but when you start seeing friends and family sharing attacks that occurred within several degrees of separation from you, you take notice. When you see that others across the country are experiencing the same, you really take notice. Now. Not next year when the numbers have been consolidated into a database and made into an infographic by data scientists. I don't need statistics to see that. The sudden copycat attacks on elderly Asians aren't something the MSM just made up, as much as I also dislike how they thrive on turmoil. You think that no one was bringing this up 6 months ago? There was a noticeable spike in anti-Asian racism starting at the beginning of COVID. It made some headlines, but was overshadowed by the rest of the shit-show that was 2020. My neighborhood gun shop had a significant increase in Asian customers, and there were some restaurants that were vandalized. Sorry, I don't have the statistics to back that up.

As far as the shooting itself, I don't agree with the hate crime label just yet. Does sexual addiction or INCEL ideology nullify race as a factor? I don't think they're mutually exclusive. This is just conjecture, but I'll ASSume that he had an Asian fetish, was severely repressed, and took his self-loathing out on the objects of his lust. He skipped all the strip clubs Atlanta is known for and targeted several Asian owned businesses where the majority of employees are Asian. It's not the typical "Kill all [insert racial slur]" racism, but that leads me to believe race played at least some part. Is fetishizing Asian women a problem? I think so. Is it a hate crime? In and of itself, I don't think so. We do need to wait for more evidence to see how much of a factor race played. I don't see it as binary, but where do we draw the line?

I agree that the words "racist" and "hate crime" are thrown around far too casually, and not everything involving a minority is a race issue. Sometimes I feel a witch hunt vibe. I think there is definitely more racism going on now than ever, and not just against Blacks and Asians. My nephew is half Filipino, half (mostly) Irish, but looks plain white. I don't want him to have to be ashamed of his skin color any more than I have to be of mine.

If any good were to realistically come out of the past 365 days, including the more intense focus on racism in the context of this attack, I'd think it would be more of the general public understanding our perspective on gun rights, making a ban very unpopular. Hell, I'd also like to wish for striking down the laws regarding other self defense options like fixed blade knives and saps.

[HCM]

That's odd. I'm pretty sure I can spell "statistics", and that also goes for my friends and family. As far as math, well... you know what they say about Asian kids and math . It's funny that you demand statistics to back this issue up, yet you're willing to make ridiculous generalizations about an entire population.

Statistics are fine for looking at historical trends and saying "Hmm, these numbers have risen steadily over the past decade", but when you start seeing friends and family sharing attacks that occurred within several degrees of separation from you, you take notice. When you see that others across the country are experiencing the same, you really take notice. Now. Not next year when the numbers have been consolidated into a database and made into an infographic by data scientists. I don't need statistics to see that. The sudden copycat attacks on elderly Asians aren't something the MSM just made up, as much as I also dislike how they thrive on turmoil. You think that no one was bringing this up 6 months ago? There was a noticeable spike in anti-Asian racism starting at the beginning of COVID. It made some headlines, but was overshadowed by the rest of the shit-show that was 2020. My neighborhood gun shop had a significant increase in Asian customers, and there were some restaurants that were vandalized. Sorry, I don't have the statistics to back that up.

As far as the shooting itself, I don't agree with the hate crime label just yet. Does sexual addiction or INCEL ideology nullify race as a factor? I don't think they're mutually exclusive. This is just conjecture, but I'll ASSume that he had an Asian fetish, was severely repressed, and took his self-loathing out on the objects of his lust. He skipped all the strip clubs Atlanta is known for and targeted several Asian owned businesses where the majority of employees are Asian. It's not the typical "Kill all [insert racial slur]" racism, but that leads me to believe race played at least some part. Is fetishizing Asian women a problem? I think so. Is it a hate crime? In and of itself, I don't think so. We do need to wait for more evidence to see how much of a factor race played. I don't see it as binary, but where do we draw the line?

I agree that the words "racist" and "hate crime" are thrown around far too casually, and not everything involving a minority is a race issue. Sometimes I feel a witch hunt vibe. I think there is definitely more racism going on now than ever, and not just against Blacks and Asians. My nephew is half Filipino, half (mostly) Irish, but looks plain white. I don't want him to have to be ashamed of his skin color any more than I have to be of mine.

If any good were to realistically come out of the past 365 days, including the more intense focus on racism in the context of this attack, I'd think it would be more of the general public understanding our perspective on gun rights, making a ban very unpopular. Hell, I'd also like to wish for striking down the laws regarding other self defense options like fixed blade knives and saps.

Based on what is publicly available on the Atlanta shooter and what I know about prior INCEL extremists, the massage parlor thing is far more likely the only sexual outlet he had experienced rather than an Asian fetish. When arrested he was driving to his next target, a porn related business in Florida without an Asian connection.

Crimes targeting Asians based on race are a real thing, but these Atlanta shootings are classic INCEL offender behavior.

They blame women and society for their lack of romantic success and see acts of violence against women as acts of revenge. The Atlanta shooter blaming the victims for being a “temptation” and causing his “sex addiction” is consistent with the ideology.

[HCM]

How’s that open border working out ?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-i...xas-cop-report

Illegal immigrant from Mexico wanted for raping 2 young girls is killed by Texas cop: report
The suspect had previously been deported from the U.S. after similar charges, authorities said

An armed child-rape suspect who left Arkansas, where he was wanted on 11 felony counts, was killed in Arlington, Texas, this week after pointing a gun at police during a traffic stop, according to a report.

Suspect Juan Jimenez-Salas, 46, was later found to be an illegal immigrant from Mexico who had previously been deported from the U.S., authorities told FOX 4 of Dallas-Fort Worth.

The suspect was accused of repeatedly molesting two young daughters of his Arkansas girlfriend, authorities said. Both girls were under age 10.

Approximately 20 years ago, he was arrested on felony charges similar to that on what we have on him in this case now," Capt. Scott Harwell of the El Dorado Police Department in Arkansas told the station. "And he was deported back to Mexico."

It was unclear how long ago Jimenez-Salas returned to the U.S. or why he was in the Arlington area, Harwell said.

Jimenez-Salas was wanted on five felony counts of rape and six felony counts of indecency with a child, all involving the two girls, FOX 4 reported.

Authorities had been searching for Jimenez-Salas since November, when the girls’ father in North Texas told police he believed Jimenez-Salas had been raping the Texas man’s children. The girls had reportedly told their father they were raped in a McKinney, Texas, hotel room while traveling with their mother and the suspect, Harwell told FOX 4.

On Thursday, a U.S. Marshal’s Office task force traced Jimenez-Salas to North Texas. Local police in Arlington then spotted the suspect’s vehicle and pulled him over for a traffic violation. The suspect pulled out a gun and pointed it at an Arlington officer who was working with U.S. marshals but the officer managed to fire at Jimenez-Salas, killing him, FOX 4 reported.

Both girls were reported to be safe with their father in Texas while their mother’s whereabouts were unknown. But authorities told FOX 4 the woman was notified that Jimenez-Salas is dead.

[HCM]

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/fort...e-say-1.666473

Fort Bliss soldier assaulted wife before being shot by stepson, police say

A Fort Bliss soldier shot and killed by his 13-year-old stepson had assaulted the boy’s mother earlier that day, according to the El Paso Police Department.

The boy told police that he had seen Edwards assault his mother earlier in the day while the family was outside the home. Once back at the apartment, the boy retrieved a handgun owned by Edwards.

“When the couple again began to argue the juvenile produced the handgun and shot Edwards,” police reported.

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Based on what is publicly available on the Atlanta shooter and what I know about prior INCEL extremists, the massage parlor thing is far more likely the only sexual outlet he had experienced rather than an Asian fetish. When arrested he was driving to his next target, a porn related business in Florida without an Asian connection.

Crimes targeting Asians based on race are a real thing, but these Atlanta shootings are classic INCEL offender behavior.

They blame women and society for their lack of romantic success and see acts of violence against women as acts of revenge. The Atlanta shooter blaming the victims for being a “temptation” and causing his “sex addiction” is consistent with the ideology.

I'm not an incel expert, but I had a conversation with one a few years ago (friend of a friend). In that sample size of one, there was a healthy dose of racism thrown into the ideology. One of his beefs (that he represented as a widespread belief, but who knows) was that white women were chosing African American men instead of white guys like him. If they weren't allowed to, people like him would have less competition.

Not to say that this sort of philosophy is the same that the Atlanta murderer possessed.

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I'm not an incel expert, but I had a conversation with one a few years ago (friend of a friend). In that sample size of one, there was a healthy dose of racism thrown into the ideology. One of his beefs (that he represented as a widespread belief, but who knows) was that white women were chosing African American men instead of white guys like him. If they weren't allowed to, people like him would have less competition.

Not to say that this sort of philosophy is the same that the Atlanta murderer possessed.

I remember in the good old days when it was black women who didn't like white women taking their men.

You just can't please anyone anymore.

I blame the Kardashians. They clearly drove Bruce to the extremes of his personal choices.

[HCM]

I'm not an incel expert, but I had a conversation with one a few years ago (friend of a friend). In that sample size of one, there was a healthy dose of racism thrown into the ideology. One of his beefs (that he represented as a widespread belief, but who knows) was that white women were chosing African American men instead of white guys like him. If they weren't allowed to, people like him would have less competition.

Not to say that this sort of philosophy is the same that the Atlanta murderer possessed.

The funny thing is many African American women have the same beef.

We see cross over between white supremacy extremists and Islamic Jihadis so cross over and hybrid extremists are very much a thing.

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The funny thing is many African American women have the same beef.

We see cross over between white supremacy extremists and Islamic Jihadis so cross over and hybrid extremists are very much a thing.

That’s what I was thinking, where the extremist make a U into each other on the “Left vs. Right” chart.