Shooting incidents in the news.

[Lex Luthier]

Interesting. What is your neighborhood like, if I may ask? I actually used to live in Minn. for a couple years but never spent much time in the Twin Cities.

It's a crossroads. Near the northern edge of central St Paul, right next to (and named for) Hamline University, the oldest private college in MN. Most of the housing stock is pre-1940, and in good nick. Neighbors include college students, a sprinkling of Somali and Eritrean folks, some Vietnamese and Hmong immigrants, and increasingly, middle-class families (of all persuasions) with small children. Lots of long-term residents here- it's not all transient. A fair representation of artists, artisans, and musicians, too.
(I guess I fit in that group, as does my wife.) Rents and housing prices are still reasonable for the region.
It's a fairly low crime area for an inner city neighborhood with a significant minority and lower-income component. My introduction to Minnesota Nice, I suppose.
Overall, it's safer than the areas of San Francisco, Berkeley, or Oakland I lived in while at college in the 1980s. Several of the surrounding areas can get pretty dicey at times, but nothing like North Minneapolis, and worlds away from a place like West Oakland, CA.

[Kimura]

My first thought when I saw this on the news was, "Your boyfriend just got shot and is checking out, cop still has him/you at gunpoint, and the first thing you do is live stream to FaceBook?" WTF?

Maybe trying to keep from getting shot herself. Live streams or even video tend to make people hesitate.

[Saur]

Maybe trying to keep from getting shot herself. Live streams or even video tend to make people hesitate.

Wonder if this kinda stuff will lead to an evolution of dashcams to include views of the driver/passenger windows to capture more of what happens from the pov of the inside of the vehicle.

[hufnagel]

Wonder if this kinda stuff will lead to an evolution of dashcams to include views of the driver/passenger windows to capture more of what happens from the pov of the inside of the vehicle.

the day someone comes out with a multi-cam recorder for the car (foward, rear, sides, driver) with GPS/speed recording for a decent price ($200?) I'll buy one. With today's technology and ever shrinking storage devices I'm willing to bet it can be done. Gimme a 1 hour loop space at 1080P 60fps.

reminds me, I need to figure out how to wear my vigilante body cam more often, and discretely.

[Casual Friday]

Seems as though there may be more to this guy than being reported. I saw this link on another forum, it's not a site I'm familiar with though so I can't vouch for credibility. http://gotnews.com/breaking-philando...ps-gangmember/

[Drang]

Well, this is interesting. I belong to a FB neighborhood group, and several of the folks on it knew this guy- he supervised their kids' school cafeteria. Several have interacted with him socially.

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[Hambo]

Maybe trying to keep from getting shot herself. Live streams or even video tend to make people hesitate.

So moving around and disregarding what an officer is saying after he just shot your companion is the way to keep from getting shot? Give me a break.

[GuanoLoco]

So moving around and disregarding what an officer is saying after he just shot your companion is the way to keep from getting shot? Give me a break.

Or maybe she assumed she wouldn't get shot because she wasn't armed and presenting a viable threat.

Crazy talk in the actual situation, I know...

[guymontag]

My first thought when I saw this on the news was, "Your boyfriend just got shot and is checking out, cop still has him/you at gunpoint, and the first thing you do is live stream to FaceBook?" WTF?

I try not to judge people too much, and although I agree with the pro-police and pro-military attitude of the forum, i don't disagree with her choice to film. If I'm ever stopped by someone who can overtly fuck up my life with power bequeathed to them from the government then I'm going to try to capture that moment in some form or fashion.

A healthy distrust of everyone, including authority figures is something I believe in.

I don't know if the shooting was warranted (and I won't pass judgement on that either) but claiming that she is moving around and disregarding officer orders is a little much. I only heard one order around 34 seconds where she complied, and the officer keeps yelling "fuck". Fifty five seconds - "I'll keep my hands where they are, sir". One minute twenty - she complies to the orders to exit the vehicle. One person is calm and collected in that video, one is not, and one is dying. Moving a camera with her hands is too much suspicious movement?

Maybe the corpse decided today was the day he wasn't going to take anymore shit from someone else, and waged his Thermopylae in his sedan on a city street - I don't know. I hope there's more evidence - and yes I would call it evidence (googled it and first definition sounds valid to me) to prove this was not a senseless death.

But I'm not a lawyer, police officer, blogger or someone who made it past the fourth grade.

[Hambo]

Moving a camera with her hands is too much suspicious movement?

Dude, or dudes, that don't get this. If the cop was nervous (or whatever) enough to smoke her boyfriend for doing nothing, it's pretty stupid to be doing something with your hands. Clear enough?