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    Quote Originally Posted by rayrevolver View Post
    Just saw this video, dang its intense. This article below says the driver was a retired "SAPS Special Task Force" guy, which sounds like the South African SWAT. Also says a similar incident on the same day happened where one security guy was killed and another wounded driving an escort vehicle.

    I have heard SA is bad for car jacking civilians but shooting at armored cars is nuts.

    https://www.sapeople.com/2021/05/01/...-south-africa/

    Came across a video from the armored vehicle company talking with the driver in that video, his play by play, and showing the hits on the vehicle from that day.

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    Unusual. So far.

    Teen making and selling ghost guns. Shoots at somebody trying to hijack him. Kills his sister by mistake. Georgia.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/02/us/ky...her/index.html
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    3 dead, including 3-year-old girl, after shooting in Elizabeth City


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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
    Unusual. So far.

    Teen making and selling ghost guns. Shoots at somebody trying to hijack him. Kills his sister by mistake. Georgia.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/02/us/ky...her/index.html
    Not that unusual. We have discussed the increasing use of 80% / so called ghost guns in the criminal world. Some in the 2A world, usually people with no actual exposure to the criminal world, are in denial about this but gun savvy LEOs are aware it’s a growing issue, particularly in places where factory made guns are harder to come by such as CA, NY etc. they are starting to pop up in US Border Patrol encounters as well.

    re: Doing dirt from your home is a bad idea. This is why smart crooks here rent a hotel room under an alias, knock out a dozen or so P80s, offer them on social media and disappear once they sell out, which usually happens in a few hours.

    Crooks (even pint sized ones) shooting innocent bystanders is also not unusual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCM View Post
    https://abcnews4.com/news/local/gun-...J6aC_9fIQww36g

    Charleston gun store owner accidentally shoots, kills employee
    https://fox59.com/news/national-worl...ur67PSe5gvPmVg

    South Carolina gun shop owner charged after ‘prank’ leaves friend dead

    BERKELEY COUNTY, S.C. (WCBD) – Charges have been filed against a South Carolina gun shop owner who fatally shot a friend after mistaking a Glock 17 for a BB gun, according to police.

    Jail records show Jon Whitley, who owns Coastal Firearm, was arrested Monday on a charge of involuntary manslaughter.

    Berkeley County deputies responded to the business on Nov. 2 and found Stefan Mrgan with a gunshot wound to the face.

    Mrgan did not survive the shooting.

    Whitley told deputies that he thought he was holding a replica BB gun when he tried to prank his friend and part-time employee by shooting him with it, according to an affidavit obtained by the Associated Press.

    A witness said that the men were talking normally when he heard a loud bang and then saw Mrgan fall to the ground. The witness ran to Mrgan, secured Mrgan’s weapon, and began first aid until EMS arrived, according to the report.

    Whitley was given a $15,000 bond.

    Jerry Meehan, who is representing Mrgan’s widow, requested that Whitley not be allowed to possess a firearm as a condition of his bond, which the judge granted. Meehan said that the family is happy with the judge’s decision to grant that condition.

    It is unclear how that bond condition will impact Whitley’s role as the owner of a gun shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCM View Post
    Not that unusual. We have discussed the increasing use of 80% / so called ghost guns in the criminal world. Some in the 2A world, usually people with no actual exposure to the criminal world, are in denial about this but gun savvy LEOs are aware it’s a growing issue, particularly in places where factory made guns are harder to come by such as CA, NY etc. they are starting to pop up in US Border Patrol encounters as well.

    re: Doing dirt from your home is a bad idea. This is why smart crooks here rent a hotel room under an alias, knock out a dozen or so P80s, offer them on social media and disappear once they sell out, which usually happens in a few hours.

    Crooks (even pint sized ones) shooting innocent bystanders is also not unusual.
    Just had to assist our local DA's with a defense request to examine a murder weapon. The gun....a Polymer 80 "Glock 27" clone, was used by a 16 year old suspect to murder a dude who wouldn't buy his drunk ass more beer.

    The Defenses "expert" had claimed the gun was inoperable....though the crime lab had test fired it. Defense lawyer kinda figured this was bullshit....but went along representing the clients interests (guy is an ex cop and a very good defense attorney). Of course....his "expert" never showed. He showed me his "experts" CV and asked me what I thought. I told him "Joe....I wouldn't let that guy handle a gun, much less testify as an expert."

    On point.....our local shitheads are making increasing use of 80% guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMC View Post
    Just had to assist our local DA's with a defense request to examine a murder weapon. The gun....a Polymer 80 "Glock 27" clone, was used by a 16 year old suspect to murder a dude who wouldn't buy his drunk ass more beer.

    The Defenses "expert" had claimed the gun was inoperable....though the crime lab had test fired it. Defense lawyer kinda figured this was bullshit....but went along representing the clients interests (guy is an ex cop and a very good defense attorney). Of course....his "expert" never showed. He showed me his "experts" CV and asked me what I thought. I told him "Joe....I wouldn't let that guy handle a gun, much less testify as an expert."

    On point.....our local shitheads are making increasing use of 80% guns.
    So USBP AZ just recovered an 80% AR and a P80 in a cache of gear. They have been used in two recent / high profile shootings of LEOs in CA I'm aware of- the two LASD deputies ambushed in their vehicle a year or two back and a central CA (Kern County ?) SWAT Officer shot in a stand off, though that subject also had an AK.

    I believe there's at least two LAPD shootings in the LE OUF Video thread here involving suspects with P80s as well.

    An buddy on NYPD advised they are seeing/ seizing lots of P80s as well.

    The suspect who killed an US FPS Guard and wounded another at the Federal courthouse in Oakland then ambushed Santa Cruz County Sheriff's Deputies, killing one and wounding two more used an 80% 9mm AR with a self made suppressor.

    The Active Shooter her in Midland/Odessa in 2019 used an 80% AR purchased from a subject making them for resale at inflated prices to prohibited persons. The ANTIFA subject who shot up the US ICE detention Center in Tacoma WA in 2019 also used an 80% AR so its been a thing for a bit now.

    The genie is out of the bottle and I suspect if there was a crack down on 80% receivers 3D printed would simply become more common.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCM View Post
    Not that unusual. We have discussed the increasing use of 80% / so called ghost guns in the criminal world. Some in the 2A world, usually people with no actual exposure to the criminal world, are in denial about this but gun savvy LEOs are aware it’s a growing issue, particularly in places where factory made guns are harder to come by such as CA, NY etc. they are starting to pop up in US Border Patrol encounters as well.

    re: Doing dirt from your home is a bad idea. This is why smart crooks here rent a hotel room under an alias, knock out a dozen or so P80s, offer them on social media and disappear once they sell out, which usually happens in a few hours.

    Crooks (even pint sized ones) shooting innocent bystanders is also not unusual.
    +1 to all. The unusual part to me was such a young entrepreneur in that business.

    I missed some relevant discussion. I have suspected no good could come of the ghost gun stuff but did not realize the issue had grown so big.
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    https://www.wkyt.com/2021/12/03/kent...de-911-center/

    Kentucky dispatcher dies after being shot inside 911 call center

    BELL COUNTY, Ky. (WKYT) - A 911 dispatcher was shot and killed inside the Bell County 911 Center.

    Kentucky State Police says it happened early Friday morning, around 1 a.m.

    KSP says two dispatchers were inside the Bell County 911 Center trading firearms when one of the weapons was accidentally discharged, hitting 23-year-old Kyle Garrett, of Frakes.

    Garrett was taken to Pineville Community Health Center where he was pronounced dead. An autopsy for Garrett will be performed at the State Medical Examiner’s Office in Frankfort.

    According to the sheriff’s office, non-sworn personnel are not allowed to have firearms in the 911 Center.

    The sheriff’s office added that the two dispatchers were cousins and best friends, who “grew up together and shared the hobby of casual gun trading.”

    KSP is investigating the incident.

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    https://bakersfieldnow.com/news/loca...water-balloons

    BAKERSFIELD, Calif. (KBAK/KBFX) — A man in Ridgecrest was arrested on Saturday after he shot at two teens for throwing water balloons, according to the Ridgecrest Police Department.

    (shooter age 63 was a convicted felon with a single shot shotgun in his truck; in which he was sleeping when the teens drove by and threw water balloons)
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