Snub ammo test at Revolver Roundup

[jtcarm]

I attended my first Revolver Roundup this past weekend.

I’ll leave it to someone else to cover the full event, though it was awesome.

The weekend included an ammo demonstration by Chuck Haggard of Agile Tactical.

The test used the standard ballistic gelatin, with most bullets fired through 4 layers of denim (leading to jokes about the possibility of “gun-shot” brand designer jeans.). All fired out of 2” barrels.

I snapped pics where I could of the top performers. Anyone who was there, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

All of these “best” loads had at least 12” penetration.

Buffalo Bore 110 +P Barnes Bullet


I didn’t get a picture of the bullet, but this Speer .357 round was pretty impressive:


Side note: the Speer 135 GD .38 Special plugged with denim and expanded little, if any. However, IIRC, it gave good penetration and 180-degree yaw.

Winchester 145 ST .357 fired out of a 4” Model 28.



Not pictured: Buffalo Bore .38 Special 158 LSWCHP +P. Good expansion, not as dramatic as their 110. Same bullet, standard pressure, not so much.

I’m not sure if this is the Winchester .357 ST again, or a Speer .44 Special 200-grain GDHP shot out of a 296. It is very impressive, though:


The Federal HST 9mm from a Glock 19 showed excellent expansion. Sorry, no bullet:


The Super Vel in the photo sucked. It fragmented after a few inches.

Full WCs penetrated about 12” and cut a predictable full caliber hole (I couldn’t get pics of the gelatin.)

All said & done, I’ll stick with full WCs or +P 158 LSWCHP for EDC.

I’ve not had good experiences with lightweight bullets shooting to point of aim. The last .38 110 +P I tried took every bit of the elevation screw on my 4” Model 66 and still printed 2” low at 50’.

[Chuck Haggard]

Point of order...

Clear Gel was used.

The .38 WCs went the full length of the 16" block and came to rest in the folded jeans used as a backer. Excellent penetration from Federal, Remington and Winchester samples.

That fat mushroom in the pic next to the staple was a .357mag Silvertip.

The .44special that was tested was a Gold Dot.

[revchuck38]

Had I known it wasn't limited to snubs, I could've been there...maybe with my 4" M28.

[jtcarm]

Ah, thanks Chuck.

[jtcarm]

Had I known it wasn't limited to snubs, I could've been there...maybe with my 4" M28.

The 4” HP was just someone’s bring-along. Training was all snubs.

[SeriousStudent]

Had I known it wasn't limited to snubs, I could've been there...maybe with my 4" M28.

Nobody ran a 4" on the line during drills. The guy with the 4" M28 also brought along a dozen 2" and 3" revolvers, several of which he loaned out to other shooters so they could complete the class. If you had wanted to do so, he would have loaned you a 2" J or K frame and ammo to run it. Which he did for several people.

And by the way, he ran a 2" Airweight like a boss.

[Chuck Haggard]

Had I known it wasn't limited to snubs, I could've been there...maybe with my 4" M28.

This weekend was dedicated to snubs.

Previous Revolver Round-ups have included service size guns.

[Sherman A. House DDS]

Wish I could have made it! It’s like having Soundgarden come to town and being stuck at work!


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[wvincent]

The Super Vel in the photo sucked. It fragmented after a few inches.

Sorry to hear about the Super Vel lack of performance. I was kind of hoping it was up to its legendary namesake.
Oh well, at least the box is still super cool, retro style.

[MGW]

Wish I could have made it! It’s like having Soundgarden come to town and being stuck at work!


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Bonus points for Doc for great tastes in revolvers and bands.

I also hated missing this again. I’ll be able to make it there one if these years.