When do you call the police?

[JDM]

When is the appropriate time to involve the local authorities regarding a situation that has caused a gun to clear leather (kydex?)?

The following is purely hypothetical:

I rent a condo in an upscale neighborhood in Albuquerque, filled with retired people, professional types etc. Really an ideal place for someone who is trying to stay out of trouble and live nice and quietly.

As luck would have it, I live directly accross from a couple "bro" (urban dictionary for definition) types, that somehow have managed not to get the old heave-ho despite flagrant and regular defiance of property rules. Read this as daytime drinking. Loud bullshit till three in the morning etc. I've come to believe that these two schmucks are the only two idiots in the whole place, and of course they are right here.

These two morons keep a large, aggressive and rather unpleasant dog, And regularly have their front door open allowing the dog to enter and exit their dwelling as it pleases. This foul beast has forced me to clear leather twice, via aggressive charging. Once while I was solo, and once when I had my 4yo with me. Both incidents were in view of one of the retards that own the dog. Both of whom got a very unpleasant talking to. Aside from being VERY polite to me now, they still allow their dog to roam about the property. They do bring him inside when they see I'm leaving my home, but that is little comfort given their regular inebriation.

Complaints to management have accomplished nothing.

What's next?

ETA: excuse the misplaced caps and punctuation. This was composed on an iPhone.

[David]

I'd call if for no other reason than to document the problem should you ever have to use force. (on the dog)

[JDM]

I'd call if for no other reason than to document the problem should you ever have to use force. (on the dog)

I guess I should have added to my original post that I'm only reluctant to call the police because I don't want the dog to be put down. I'm sure he is a fine animal under the right circumstances, as in when nowhere near me, and the dog doesn't understand the idea of common areas, so he is doing what he thinks he should (guarding masters house).

Would confiscation and euthanasia be the recourse to a simple report, or can the police simply make a report, and save further action for a later date if it becomes necessary?

[MTechnik]

When is the appropriate time to involve the local authorities regarding a situation that has caused a gun to clear leather (kydex?)?

The following is purely hypothetical:

I rent a condo in an upscale neighborhood in Albuquerque, filled with retired people, professional types etc. Really an ideal place for someone who is trying to stay out of trouble and live nice and quietly.

As luck would have it, I live directly accross from a couple "bro" (urban dictionary for definition) types, that somehow have managed not to get the old heave-ho despite flagrant and regular defiance of property rules. Read this as daytime drinking. Loud bullshit till three in the morning etc. I've come to believe that these two schmucks are the only two idiots in the whole place, and of course they are right here.

These two morons keep a large, aggressive and rather unpleasant dog, And regularly have their front door open allowing the dog to enter and exit their dwelling as it pleases. This foul beast has forced me to clear leather twice, via aggressive charging. Once while I was solo, and once when I had my 4yo with me. Both incidents were in view of one of the retards that own the dog. Both of whom got a very unpleasant talking to. Aside from being VERY polite to me now, they still allow their dog to roam about the property. They do bring him inside when they see I'm leaving my home, but that is little comfort given their regular inebriation.

Complaints to management have accomplished nothing.

What's next?

ETA: excuse the misplaced caps and punctuation. This was composed on an iPhone.

Check your state laws. In PA a dog "pursuing, wounding or attacking human beings" (depending on what happened with the charing episodes) is enough to put a dog down yourself. But your laws may be very different.

[JDM]

Check your state laws. In PA a dog "pursuing, wounding or attacking human beings" (depending on what happened with the charing episodes) is enough to put a dog down yourself. But your laws may be very different.

The law I'm familiar with, and am comfortable acting under. It's the "when" of involving law enforcement that I'm unsure about.

[MTechnik]

The law I'm familiar with, and am comfortable acting under. It's the "when" of involving law enforcement that I'm unsure about.

Next time the dog charges you, regardless of whether you shot it or not.

[JDM]

Next time the dog charges you, regardless of whether you shot it or not.

The old third times a charm. I think this is good. They have had two chances.

[David]

I guess I should have added to my original post that I'm only reluctant to call the police because I don't want the dog to be put down. I'm sure he is a fine animal under the right circumstances, as in when nowhere near me, and the dog doesn't understand the idea of common areas, so he is doing what he thinks he should (guarding masters house).

Would confiscation and euthanasia be the recourse to a simple report, or can the police simply make a report, and save further action for a later date if it becomes necessary?

I have no idea what your laws are there but usually they won't euthanize a dog unless it has harmed another person or animal. In either case at-least you would be on record as having made a complaint of the issue should you need to defend yourself from it. You can use some spray on the thing and once it returns home a few times whimpering covered in pepper gel they might get the idea.

[JDM]

I have no idea what your laws are there but usually they won't euthanize a dog unless it has harmed another person or animal. In either case at-least you would be on record as having made a complaint of the issue should you need to defend yourself from it. You can use some spray on the thing and once it returns home a few times whimpering covered in pepper gel they might get the idea.

This hadn't even occurred to me.

...every problem looks like a nail.

Thanks!!! I'm sure the dog will too.

[jslaker]

You can use some spray on the thing and once it returns home a few times whimpering covered in pepper gel they might get the idea.

You know, in another thread here, specifically mentioned that one of the reasons they carry OC is in case of aggressive dogs. Sounds like this might be a good idea in your case, OP. It'd give you some sort of recourse without resorting to having to shoot the dog, which it understandably sounds like something you'd like to avoid.