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    FAST Drill Question

    On a drill like this one, where the initial target is small (although the distance is not terribly great), yet speed it still a requirment for expert proficiency, are you guys using a Target Focus or a Front Sight Focus?

    Just curious...

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    Every time I've known I had both head hits, I had a perfectly clear front sight focus. Sometimes I am visually lazy and don't bring my focus all the way back to the front sight. I can still get my hits this way, but I cannot call the shots nearly as well. This usually leads to problems later in the drill because I am wondering if got the first hits instead of keeping my mind focused on the present. So, for me, having a front sight focus works better.

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    I've been running low 6's high 5's while focusing on the front sight. As I understand the press out you follow the front sight out to extention and when timed right break the shot as you reach full extention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsa-otc View Post
    As I understand the press out you follow the front sight out to extention and when timed right break the shot as you reach full extention.
    It may be better to start another thread on this topic, but you do not have to focus on the front sight to follow it to extension on the press out. I always do a press out, but very rarely do I have front sight focus on very high probability targets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshs View Post
    It may be better to start another thread on this topic, but you do not have to focus on the front sight to follow it to extension on the press out. I always do a press out, but very rarely do I have front sight focus on very high probability targets.
    I agree, high probability targets don’t require perfect focus. John was asking about smaller targets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsa-otc View Post
    I agree, high probability targets don’t require perfect focus. John was asking about smaller targets.
    Yes - I wouldn't have any problem with the 8" circle and a target focus, but I was curious about the 3x5 card, and what level of focus others are using for it.

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    I went through the AFHF this past weekend in ATL. This was my first time running the FAST at speed. I really focused on the front site on the 3x5 but went flash on the circle.

    The trick is to go as slow as you need to go to get your hits. TLG quoted Enos repeatedly, "See what you need to see ........" Even if you took an extra half/second to get each head shot that's better than taking a 2 second penalty for missing it by an inch. Also, don't "look" to see if you got the hits before proceeding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolGrad View Post
    I went through the AFHF this past weekend in ATL. This was my first time running the FAST at speed. I really focused on the front site on the 3x5 but went flash on the circle.

    The trick is to go as slow as you need to go to get your hits. TLG quoted Enos repeatedly, "See what you need to see ........" Even if you took an extra half/second to get each head shot that's better than taking a 2 second penalty for missing it by an inch. Also, don't "look" to see if you got the hits before proceeding.
    Thanks.

    Enos's book should be mandatory reading for shooters - it is good stuff! I also agree about looking for holes in the target - if you saw your sights there, the bullet holes should be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Ralston View Post
    I also agree about looking for holes in the target - if you saw your sights there, the bullet holes should be there.
    .... and since this drill (with a timer) is essentially a game .... what are you going to do about it if you didn't get the hits? You are still going to re-load them move on to the circle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolGrad View Post
    .... and since this drill (with a timer) is essentially a game .... what are you going to do about it if you didn't get the hits? You are still going to re-load them move on to the circle.
    True...although I think the real goal of drills like this is to become proficient with the weapon, the gear and your gun handling/operating skills. I for one, look at drills as a way to become a better overall shooter. The timer is only a way for me to measure progress, as I know I will never be as fast as those of you who have the time and money to practice more than I do

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