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    Quote Originally Posted by P.E. Kelley View Post
    I am self taught in that I have had no "formal instruction" outside of my Dad showing and encouraging the fundamentals of making
    an accurate shot.

    I shoot Glocks by choice in competitions. I have held my own with them over the last 20 years or so. I say that
    so you all have some perspective on my thoughts on how I run a Glock trigger.

    I highlighted Mr. White "keeping the trigger moving" as that is how I run and instruct, but as a simple man I like to use the analogy "swing set". In other words, the trigger is moved back and forth as one would see a swing set
    moving. Back and forth at the same speed. A swing can't move one way faster than the other when free-swinging.

    I work to think and manipulate the trigger that way on every shot. Fast hose'em or 80 yard plate racks.

    FWIW.
    Hmm... what part does reset play in your trigger technique -- or does it? I am a long time 1911 shooter just recently experimenting with a pair of G34s. I find the G34 trigger to be quite good, though obviously different than what I am used to. The Glock trigger reset is nice, and it seems to help speed up things between each shot (not sure that's a good way to explain it). I don't pin the trigger after a shot, and am enjoying the Glock trigger reset so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P.E. Kelley View Post
    I like to use the analogy "swing set". In other words, the trigger is moved back and forth as one would see a swing set
    moving. Back and forth at the same speed. A swing can't move one way faster than the other when free-swinging.

    I work to think and manipulate the trigger that way on every shot. Fast hose'em or 80 yard plate racks.

    FWIW.
    What I find interesting is the opposite: Most people slap the trigger and get off of it when they learn to "go fast" and then "linger" on the trigger when taking harder shots: The press might be fairly quick, but the finger doesn't swing off of it, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Les Pepperoni View Post
    What I find interesting is the opposite: Most people slap the trigger and get off of it when they learn to "go fast" and then "linger" on the trigger when taking harder shots: The press might be fairly quick, but the finger doesn't swing off of it, etc...
    I try (I keep saying try as that is my goal) to not let my finger come off the trigger.
    12 splits at 7 yards? I bet some day light is seen, but again I try to have the rearward and forward motion be
    at the same rate.
    Guns are just machines and without you they can do no harm, nor any good

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    Quote Originally Posted by P.E. Kelley View Post
    I try (I keep saying try as that is my goal) to not let my finger come off the trigger.
    12 splits at 7 yards? I bet some day light is seen, but again I try to have the rearward and forward motion be
    at the same rate.
    It is interesting... I always just think about taking the shot, never really think about the reset.

    I guess I liken it to reading music: you clap on that downbeat, but don't really worry about resetting your hands - it just sorta happens.

    Regardless - there is so much great info here...

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    As another data point, TPC, Manny Bragg and JJ teach to reset the trigger as fast as possible, with speed gains coming from resetting faster rather than pressing the trigger faster.
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    I will have to dig around for some slow motion video, but I don't think anyone is resetting the trigger during muzzle lift.
    Guns are just machines and without you they can do no harm, nor any good

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    A lot of people claim to do a lot of things and when they're deliberately performing it (whatever "it" is) as a demonstration, they can do it on demand. Otherwise, it ain't usually happening like they would like to think.

    As noted by P.E. Kelley, video tells the tale.
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    I am not sure what someone claimed as to when they are resetting the trigger, and what slow motion video would exactly show, but I think most of us would agree that for shooting at speed, the goal is to get the trigger reset and ready to fire again as soon as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    I am not sure what someone claimed as to when they are resetting the trigger, and what slow motion video would exactly show, but I think most of us would agree that for shooting at speed, the goal is to get the trigger reset and ready to fire again as soon as possible.
    Absolutely!
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    Quote Originally Posted by P.E. Kelley View Post
    I try (I keep saying try as that is my goal) to not let my finger come off the trigger.
    12 splits at 7 yards? I bet some day light is seen, but again I try to have the rearward and forward motion be
    at the same rate.
    I found one... With a Beretta, none-the-less!


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