Glock trigger manipulation with sights in motion

[Mr_White]

Two of the dry drills I teach in class (Sights, Meet Trigger 1 and 2) address this exact thing with regard to subsequent shots.

I previously posted Sights, Meet Trigger 1 and 2 under different names as the Drill of the Week.

This became Sights, Meet Trigger 1: https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....-Single-Target

These two are both Sights, Meet Trigger 2 (we do the body to head up-transition in class): https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....Up-Transitions

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....-Transitions-1

I made a quick video yesterday to provide a visual explanation of Sights, Meet Trigger 1. The first part is working on a USPSA lower A-zone at 7 yards. The second part is on the upper A-zone at the same distance. My support hand is slightly in the way but you can still see what I'm doing.

A few important points:

When your arms/hands get tired and you are going to dismount the gun to rest a little, get your finger in register first.

Take care to grip the gun properly and consistently. There is a lot of ungripping and regripping.

Avoid 'popping' the gun up as if it were recoiling - just get the front sight set at whatever you think its highest point of travel is, THEN (mentally separately) do the drill of driving the front sight back to the target spot and working the trigger.

This drill does NOT work on recoil control - it works on linking the act of bringing the front sight back to the target spot and timing trigger manipulation to go along with that.

[Sal Picante]

... or you could just learn to press the trigger straight back without disturbing the sights.

[ducks]

[Mr_White]

... or you could just learn to press the trigger straight back without disturbing the sights.

[ducks]

If we made it that simple, what the heck would we have to talk about? And how would we use So Many Words?

[GJM]

... or you could just learn to press the trigger straight back without disturbing the sights.

[ducks]

Smarty pants, you need to go back to your Glock 22!

[Mr_White]

Posted my dry drill as the Drill of the Week: https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....Meet-Trigger-1

[nwhpfan]

If we made it that simple, what the heck would we have to talk about? And how would we use So Many Words?

I think you make the point....

how easily pulling the trigger can be overthought.

I don't think about "how" I pull the trigger other than doing it without messing up my aim or ensuring I'm on target when I do.

[Mr_White]

I think this thread isn't really just about running the trigger straight back. That's a thing all by itself and a lot of people teach or talk about multiple sub-varieties of just that isolated act. This thread is about getting that going ALONG WITH the sights getting on target or back on target. To me, it's about the ALONG WITH part.

[Sal Picante]

If we made it that simple, what the heck would we have to talk about?

Music lawsuits?

And how would we use So Many Words?

You'd probably use more!

[Sal Picante]

I think this thread isn't really just about running the trigger straight back. That's a thing all by itself and a lot of people teach or talk about multiple sub-varieties of just that isolated act. This thread is about getting that going ALONG WITH the sights getting on target or back on target. To me, it's about the ALONG WITH part.

This! In droves.

But... I think it is over-thought. The emphasis on "along with" should be on the ability to transition and decreasing the par-time. 80% of the people will begin the press during the swing naturally, while the remaining 20% benefit from the mental imagery you describe in the "trigger meets sights" drills.

I think the ("simplified", "over-generalized") hierarchy applies nicely here:

         Trigger
     Sights/Aiming
   Movement/Position

If you aren't at the limit of knowing how to move the gun around effectively, then learning how to round off the edges between the trigger and sights "tier" is jumping the gun...

[MGW]

My training partner and I were talking about Glock triggers and this thread. Our conclusion about what gets me in trouble with Glock triggers is my brain telling me that slack out equals a trigger that's ready to break. In reallity slack out to the wall equals needing to continue to press through the break. Instead I see what I need to see with the sights and then try to break the trigger right now.

I think I would like the Glock trigger a lot better if the wall wasn't there. Just a miniature double action. Probably the exact reason I gravitate toward TDA. The feedback from the DA press slows me down enough to break the trigger clean. The SA doesn't have enough creep for me to screw up sight alignment before the shot breaks.