I often point out in my non LEO OC classes that if either of these cases had involved the "defender" using spray or a sap we wouldn't even know the incidents had ever happened.
If all you have is a hammer, something, something....
I often point out in my non LEO OC classes that if either of these cases had involved the "defender" using spray or a sap we wouldn't even know the incidents had ever happened.
If all you have is a hammer, something, something....
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I also thought the article @Mas wrote in Handgunner was pretty good:
https://americanhandgunner.com/the-a...immerman-case/
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Edited the post below to update upon further info:
@Chuck Haggard:
NC:
But it sounds like I may have an exemption based upon the following:14‑269. Carrying concealed weapons.
(a) It shall be unlawful for any person willfully and intentionally to carry concealed about his or her person any bowie knife, dirk, dagger, slung shot, loaded cane, metallic knuckles, razor, shuriken, stun gun, or other deadly weapon of like kind, except when the person is on the person's own premises.
I meet a, b, and c above.
(b) This prohibition shall not apply to the following persons:
(4b) Any person who is a qualified retired law enforcement officer as defined in G.S. 14-415.10 and meets any one of the following conditions:
a. Is the holder of a concealed handgun permit in accordance with Article 54B of this Chapter.
b. Is exempt from obtaining a permit pursuant to G.S. 14-415.25.
c. Is certified by the North Carolina Criminal Justice Education and Training Standards Commission pursuant to G.S. 14-415.26;
Last edited by blues; 08-25-2019 at 10:26 AM.
There's nothing civil about this war.
Hey, I've got not problem admitting that I didn't go back and re-read everything about that case and that my memory was vague and apparently faulty. I guess my point is that Zimmerman never struck me as someone who should have been doing what he was doing, at least not armed. He strikes me as someone who wanted to be something he isn't and when the consequences caught up with him, we got the Zimmerman case.
Even a cursory search will reveal evidence to back up that assertion in regard to individuals populating the rolls from "community watch" organizations all the way up to local, state and federal law enforcement agencies.
Pretty much like everything and everyplace else, I suppose.
There's nothing civil about this war.
"Gunfighting is a thinking man's game. So we might want to bring thinking back into it."-MDFA
Beware of my temper, and the dog that I've found...
I'm going to take advantage of the exemption cited above and ordered a small one last night (with thanks to @Chuck Haggard who patiently answered some of my newb questions on saps).
It's a Boston Leather 4 Ply "Midget". 6.75" long @ 9.5 ounces. Should be useful if only for some of the wayward curs occasionally encountered when I'm out walking locally without my blackthorn stick.
There's nothing civil about this war.