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    Site Supporter OlongJohnson's Avatar
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    Had one of those and sold it. I've explained why elsewhere on the site. Searchable if you care.
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    I have a 1911-22, and two 1911-380/22 Convertibles (both 380 and 22 slide assemblies)
    I like them.

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    These are fun guns in 22lr and the perfect trainer for my kids being that they are 80% the size of a full size. My sample has been perfectly reliable with myriad different ammo which is rare in rimfire pistols. That said, in adult size hands the ergos are not as nice as the real deal 1911s. Workable but suboptimal IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyDuty View Post
    I have one of the 1911-22s and would definitely consider one of the .380 versions. However, my .22 shoots very high and there is no aftermarket sight support that I can find. (There are three different types of sights on these little Brownings - tiny GM type, a larger one where the rear is a wedge like zitcev’s, and one still larger that resembles a Kimber rear - that’s the one I have.)

    I’d be more enthused if there was aftermarket support.
    Aftermarket support is a critical consideration in my own purchases. Gun makers would do well to coordinate with holster makers, sight makers, etc.

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    Never shot one, but I sure feel like a giant when I hold one in the shop.

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    I'm carrying one of mine right now. I like it almost as well as my 9mm Airweight J-frame Conversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimCunn View Post
    I have a 1911-22, and two 1911-380/22 Convertibles (both 380 and 22 slide assemblies)
    I like them.
    Does your 1911-22 shoot to POA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyDuty View Post
    Does your 1911-22 shoot to POA?

    Yes.
    But one of my 380s was about15" to 18" low at a hundred feet (I fixed that by lowering the front sight about 1/16 inch). The other 380 was spot on. Both of my 22 conversion slide assemblies seem to be pretty close, but I haven't shot the conversions enough to be sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimCunn View Post
    I'm carrying one of mine right now. I like it almost as well as my 9mm Airweight J-frame Conversion.
    From you, that is indeed high praise!
    lol

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    A white back, I made a bold claim about a quirk of 1911-380:

    Quote Originally Posted by zaitcev View Post
    One other peculiar feature of my unit is, the ejector is too close to the breech. The distance is short enough that if I try to eject an unfired round (for example, a misfire), the tip of the bullet touches the barrel hood, the extractor loses grip of the case, and the cartridge lands diagonally between the magazine and the barrel. If I let go of the slide at that moment, the slide may get stuck half-open with the cartridge propping it just right. At that point, it's basically impossible to rack the slide by hand, although a judicious application of a mallet will deform the cartridge enough to unblock the works. Usually when I explain this to people, they do not believe it outright. Frankly I'm curious how many members of this forum do!
    Even at the time, there was a certain cloud over that issue, namely I was not successful inducing it on demand. I could swear that it happened, and certainly unfired rounds do not eject properly, but the gun does not jam up solid if I try. I made a video about this issue, and it's exactly what's on film. I did not demonstrate the lock-up.

    Maybe everyone here had too much respect and pretended to believe my fantasies, but Youtube commenters weren't as kind.

    Either way, 6 years later I found what happened.

    It goes like this:
    - Hammer falls and a misfire follows.
    - Shooter tap-racks, the round fails to eject because of the design issue as described above.
    - On the video, extractor lost contact with the snap, but now it held enough to stop the motion of the slide.
    - Shooter has no clue what happened, and releases the slide.
    - Slide returns back and jams the round diagonally like in the photo in the video background.
    - Now the trick happens. By a coincidence, slide stops at the disassembly position. At this point, if the shooter makes an unlucky movement, she can easily drive the slide stop out to the left, for example by the index finger in the home position.
    - If the pin is out just a little, the slide is locked and cannot move.

    When the shooter, that is to say my wife, passed the gun to me, I grabbed over the the top. This helped to maintain the muzzle direction downrange, while I ripped out the magazine etc. This grip drove the slide stop back in, and allowed the slide to move. I felt it and heard the click, and then everything suddenly released. Only then I realized what happened.

    I think anyone who has ejector set too far forward should just file it down, as suggested in my Youtube comments. Then the whole problem is avoided.

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