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    Quote Originally Posted by blues View Post
    Is that the guy, Ed Z.? I bet it is because I tried to send him an email after I qualified yesterday and the email bounced back to me. (Yet his name and email is still listed on the DOJ site as the go-to.)

    I wonder how long it will take to get the new certification card now... (He usually had mine back to me in a week.)

    I think I'll stay here in western NC, thank you very much.
    Yea, him. I don't blame you for staying out west. I've been out to Boone and Asheville (shudder) the past two weekends getting a teenage driving diversion program started out there. It was nice but I was glad to see some flat land. We went to a place in downtown Asheville to eat a late lunch...I will never go back to downtown Asheville again. Finding a parking spot was a challenge then dealing with all the...locals...was more than this ole boy could take.

    Maybe that spot will be open in 2.5 years. I'm close enough to their office to make it a 20 minute ride everyday.

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    I rarely go to Asheville. And try never to have to go anywhere I need to park downtown.

    Much more pleasant in my little neck of the woods about 40 minutes southwest. Next time you're in the area, see if you can swing by. You'd like it a lot better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blues View Post
    I rarely go to Asheville. And try never to have to go anywhere I need to park downtown.

    Much more pleasant in my little neck of the woods about 40 minutes southwest. Next time you're in the area, see if you can swing by. You'd like it a lot better.
    Keefus is my training coordinator and fellow firearms instructor and he is a grumpy old guy. He really likes attending those rallies in downtown Asheville

    I have taught the HR218 course and the NC requirements need to be revised....qualify day and night and complete documentation and send to T&S unless your agency is willing to complete the qualification once you are retired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly21 View Post
    Keefus is my training coordinator and fellow firearms instructor and he is a grumpy old guy. He really likes attending those rallies in downtown Asheville

    I have taught the HR218 course and the NC requirements need to be revised....qualify day and night and complete documentation and send to T&S unless your agency is willing to complete the qualification once you are retired.
    I always wondered if Keefus was just an agent provocateur.

    I've been doing just that, (my day and night quals via the local sheriff's office), for the last several years. Couldn't be more convenient.

    NC DOJ messed up my current credential this month but the T&S Deputy Director who is, (I suppose), filling in for Ed Z. who retired, corrected it within a few days and sent out a new one. She seems to be very quick to respond to email or phone messages.

    Federal agencies will not qualify their retired agents under any circumstances...and in some cases won't even support their agents with documentation to indicate they are retired LEOs. Sad.

    Fortunately, those of us who retained their "retired" credentials can tell our former agencies to pound sand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blues View Post
    I always wondered if Keefus was just an agent provocateur.
    Yes, I stir the pot with a big boat oar. LOL! Its my only form of comic relief at work.

    And I don't plan on any more trips to downtown Asheville. That place is a liberals paradise.

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    The wife and I visited Asheville a few years ago. The junkies, homeless and grasshoppers were in abundance. We left early.

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    Plus, I’ve seen a lot of my co-workers shoot.
    ^ This x100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blues View Post
    Federal agencies will not qualify their retired agents under any circumstances...and in some cases won't even support their agents with documentation to indicate they are retired LEOs. Sad.

    Fortunately, those of us who retained their "retired" credentials can tell our former agencies to pound sand.

    I've seen this happen with municipalities/counties in my state. Fortunately there are options, namely OPOTA-certified training organizations, that will allow (for a nominal fee) retired-LE agents and officers to qualify in sponsored programs. I would encourage folks who find themselves in the position that you describe to look into such options; maybe ask around local LE agencies who out-source their training to such organizations.

    As for those without retirement creds, not sure that much can be done about that.
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    Just got this update. Looks like the "Common Carrier" portion has been removed.
    15th CONGRESS

    2d Session
    H. R. 6105

    To amend title 18, United States Code, to improve the Law Enforcement
    Officer Safety Act.


    __________________________________________________ _____________________


    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    June 14, 2018

    Mr. Bacon (for himself, Mr. Perry, and Mr. Rutherford) introduced the
    following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

    __________________________________________________ _____________________

    A BILL



    To amend title 18, United States Code, to improve the Law Enforcement
    Officer Safety Act.

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
    United States of America in Congress assembled,

    SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

    This Act may be cited as the ``LEOSA Reform Act''.

    SEC. 2. IMPROVEMENTS TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER SAFETY ACT.

    (a) Allowing Qualified Current or Retired Law Enforcement Officers
    To Carry a Firearm in a School Zone.--Section 922(q)(2)(B) of title 18,
    United States Code, is amended--
    (1) by striking ``or'' at the end of clause (vi);
    (2) by striking the period at the end of clause (vii) and
    inserting ``; or''; and
    (3) by adding at the end the following:
    ``(viii) by an individual authorized by
    section 926B or 926C to carry a concealed
    firearm.''.
    (b) Allowing Qualified Current or Retired Law Enforcement Officers
    To Carry a Firearm on Property Open to the Public (including on
    Amtrak).--Each of paragraphs (1) and (2) of sections 926B(b) and
    926C(b) of such title are amended by inserting ``, except to the extent
    that the laws apply to property open to the public'' before the
    semicolon.
    (c) Allowing Qualified Current or Retired Law Enforcement Officers
    To Carry a Firearm in a National Park.--Each of sections 926B(a) and
    926C(a) of such title is amended by inserting ``or any regulation
    prescribed by the Secretary of the Interior pertaining to a unit of the
    National Park System'' after ``thereof''.
    (d) Allowing Qualified Current or Retired Law Enforcement Officers
    To Carry an Ammunition Magazine of Any Capacity.--Each of sections
    926B(e)(2) and 926C(e)(1)(B) of such title is amended by inserting
    ``and an ammunition magazine'' before ``not expressly''.
    (e) Allowing Retired Law Enforcement Officers To Qualify for
    Concealed Carry by Passing a State-Approved Qualification Course for
    Retired Officers or a Course Needed To Obtain a Concealed Carry Permit
    in the State.--Section 926C(d)(2)(B) of such title is amended--
    (1) in the matter preceding clause (I), by striking
    ``active duty officers'' each place it appears;
    (2) in clause (I)--
    (A) by striking ``active duty''; and
    (B) by striking ``or'' at the end;
    (3) in clause (II), by striking the period and inserting
    ``; or''; and
    (4) by adding at the end the following:
    ``(III) the standards set by the agency
    referred to in paragraph (1) to carry a firearm
    of the same type as the concealed firearm.''.
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    Can't say I'm surprised if that's the case.
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