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  1. #21
    Hammertime
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    I work this drill usually once a Range session. Many times my SHO shooting is the problem.

    I am at the point after a lot of practice that I can clean 5 yards at least 50% of the time. Working on 7 which I have never cleaned.

    9mm 1911 today:




    I noticed that the tinier sight picture at seven actually seemed to improve my concentration and performance to a point. The misses on Draw and fire 2/2 were all aiming errors, while the other missed were trigger control/flinch errors.
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  2. #22
    Hammertime
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel View Post
    I work this drill usually once a Range session. Many times my SHO shooting is the problem.

    I am at the point after a lot of practice that I can clean 5 yards at least 50% of the time. Working on 7 which I have never cleaned.

    9mm 1911 today:




    I noticed that the tinier sight picture at seven actually seemed to improve my concentration and performance to a point. The misses on Draw and fire 2/2 were all aiming errors, while the other missed were trigger control/flinch errors.
    Have done this twice more at 7 with same results: 43 each time.
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  3. #23
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    I do this regularly. I have spent an awful lot of ammunition on it, and I have finally gotten to the point I feel like I need to work farther than three yards with most guns now.

    This is the first time I cleaned it at 5 yards, and I did it twice, once with my G26.3, and once with my 4516-1. There is a 5 shot group of .22 in the Dot Torture words on both targets. I use a typical target count: if the grease ring touches the edge of a scoring area, it counts. There is one hole on dot 8 on both sheets that may not be clear in the photos, but does touch the ring.

    The first time I cleaned this target at 3 yards was with the 4516-1’s little brother, a 3913. I pretty consistently clean it at 3 now, unless I get stupid.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by cornstalker View Post
    First 50 out of the new G19.5
    3 yards
    49/50 Fail. Grease ring is touching the black on the miss. I should have center punched that shot.

    Attachment 27475

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    If I’m scoring a target at a match, that one counts. It breaks the line.
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  5. #25
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    Another try cleaning this at 10 yards. Close at 49/50, but failed after dropping one of the support hand shots. Two other shots were marginal, and I was generous.

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  6. #26
    I've shot this drill for a couple of years now and use it as an introduction to new guns as well as a final drill after a long range session.

    I'm pushed back to 5-6 yards now as I was cleaning it at 3 most all of the time.

    This was my best to date....... Sig P320 Carry, Bravo concealment IWB, S&B 124 grain FMJ, Ameriglo sights ala carte with the orange square and blacked out, wide notch rears. 5 yard line.

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    This is when I slow down to a crawl and really put total focus into the press.....particularly dot 8 with the left hand only. Usually, I'm 48/50 on this at the 5 and 6 but this day, I was "on" with my press. Total surprises with nearly every round fired. If I speed up just a little, I toss a couple.

    I really prefer the orange dots to the ones I used to print out at the house in black and white. I need to start running this with par times to add that stress to it.

    Regards.
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    Been meaning to start shooting DOTW again. Barely made the cut off. Just happened to remember at the range yesterday.

    Haven’t shot this in a long time and never with Da/SA.
    CZ p-09 from Uspsa gear. 3yd - 43/50 FAIL. Still was happy though - much better than I remember shooting it and I totally shot with a speed impulse in my head a few times. Will shoot again soon and take my time. Some of you guys are pretty impressive.



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    The stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me.

    Humbly improving with CZ's.
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  8. #28
    All the repetition on this drill leads to boredom for me. Also, I question whether taking unlimited time on this many shots, leads to mental baggage that needs to be unwound when you shoot with time constraints.

    I have adopted a mini version of it, that involves five shots freestyle to the one inch square at 7 yards, and five shots each strong and support hand to the two inch dot at 7 yards. That works the trigger control this drill is aimed at, avoids boredom, conserves ammo and training time, and doesn’t get me in the place I feel I need lots of time to make an accurate shot.
    Likes pretty much everything in every caliber.
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  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    All the repetition on this drill leads to boredom for me. Also, I question whether taking unlimited time on this many shots, leads to mental baggage that needs to be unwound when you shoot with time constraints.

    I have adopted a mini version of it, that involves five shots freestyle to the one inch square at 7 yards, and five shots each strong and support hand to the two inch dot at 7 yards. That works the trigger control this drill is aimed at, avoids boredom, conserves ammo and training time, and doesn’t get me in the place I feel I need lots of time to make an accurate shot.
    I don’t have he patience to take unlimited time on every shot. I should start timing myself on this drill but I can’t imagine I take more than 10 mins on it. I really only slow down super slow on the single hand stuff. However I am still slow on it. In comparison to the Stoeger dots where I get completely flustered once the beep starts and can’t make hits.
    "Shooting is 90% mental. The rest is in your head." -Nils
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