Originally Posted by Rich_Jenkins
We have my wife's SV500, but also several of the AMSEC HAS410 pistol boxes throughout the house. The HAS410 is made of a more substantial construction (thicker steel) than most store bought full size "gun safes" that are under $1500-$2000 and uses a Simplex lock.
They make all sorts of substantial little pistol boxes and safes of small sizes.
Last edited by TGS; 06-18-2018 at 08:17 AM.
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Thanks, will look into these.
Related, I stumbled on to this yesterday: Chinese made, but appears to be a mechanical lock, with some self-declared fireproof rating. Likely not a TL-15 safe, and more of a RSC, but I was wondering if y’all have come across this brand:
Steelwater AMSWD-360 2-Hour Fireproof Home and Document Safe
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016LNH5JI..._O.bkBbSH1D7BC
It’s 1 cu ft, and not battery operated. And a weight I could just about manage.
Any thoughts on this for a RSC?
American Security Hide-A-Safe Handgun Safe https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VS9G6O6..._t4ckBbMJ6SPE0
Very nice. Will look at AMSEC’s other, larger options as well.
If you find a good small safe please share because I’m in the market too. I just don’t have a big enough collection to justify a huge safe.
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Looking at this RSC, a Hayman Dynavault DV-2219:
https://www.safeandvaultstore.com/pr...e-safe-dv-2219
Made in Oviedo FL, where oddly I used to live. Online priced just under $1K. UL RSC, and fire rated 75 min @ 1,200°F. Old-school dial combo lock. No batteries. Adjustable shelves. Fabric lined.
It is 3.1 cu ft, which is bigger than I really wanted, but I think folks have told me to go bigger on a safe than you think you need.
Hmmm.
Last edited by RJ; 06-19-2018 at 07:54 PM.
Thought I'd mention this.....AMSEC discontinued the BF HD models (with the 4ga liner) and replaced them with the new BFII. It's a play on it's certification under the new UL RSC Level II standard. Basically, a two man attack for 10 minutes on the door using any tools.
In other words, it's the TL standard but for 10 minutes instead of 15 . From what my locksmith described to me, it's basically the BF HD series but with the lockwork from their TL15/TL30 rated safes in the RF-line....so that says a lot about the general construction of your BF HD safe!
Badass safe. I wanted what you had or the BFII, but it would've taken 5 weeks to get a BFII and my locksmith isn't even sure if he could safely get it down my stairs.....even with the door removed, which apparently accounts for 1/3 of the weight. I went with a BF6024 instead.
Nice safe, Drummer. I'm jealous!
Also, since this thread is all about security and whatnot....ya'll should upgrade your door locks to Grade 1. They're awesome from a gun enthusiasts standpoint. The deadbolt is essentially an HK G3 bolt with rollers that lock into the frame. Nerd out with me for a second....how neat is that? Dr. Karl Meyer's creation lives on....but in locks.
Last edited by TGS; 06-21-2018 at 01:54 PM.
"Are you ready? Okay. Let's roll."- Last words of Todd Beamer
I didn't know the BF series had been changed/ modified. It took several weeks to get mine when I ordered it because was a custom order. But Amsec shipped exactly when they quoted me, pretty much to the day. My dad ordered a Fort Knox after I ordered the Amsec and their quote was not as accurate, supposedly due to a machine going down.
Appreciate these ideas.
We ended up ordering one of the items mentioned in this thread.
It was a little larger than I originally wanted, but I think that is ok.
Appreciate everyone’s comments here.
Last edited by RJ; 06-23-2018 at 12:17 PM.
A little bit late, but I'm looking at doing something like that when I finally land in a place longer than 24 months, though a bit larger solution. My current safe is an older 24 gun Winchester branded safe from Sam's that I bought from a friend that was moving back about 8 years ago. My thoughts are to upgrade to a more substantial Amsec TL15 or TL30 rated safe with a similar footprint for the not seldom used/shot guns that would go in the workshop. Then get a smaller 12 gun safe (Amsec TF5517 is the leading candidate) with my "everyday" guns to bolt to a concrete slab in my bedroom closet. Then a couple more "house guns" in quick access safes (like the Amsec safe you linked up a couple posts ago looks promising) in my office and a couple other areas.
Just my thoughts though, but I'm definitely a fan of distributing the guns around to other locations within the house. Partially for convenience, partially for not putting all my eggs in one basket.
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Bumping this old thread... What kind of lock does everyone recommend? I'm looking at the Amsec ESL 10 vs a group 1 mechanical dial. While rapid access with an electronic keypad is a convenient I'm more invested in long term reliability (and immunity to EMP if that's even a credible threat)
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