Bill Drill @ 7yds

[SC_Dave]

My recent practice of the Bill Drill.

I am slow on the first shot, followup shots come quicker.

Question about how you guys shoot the Bill Drill. Do you see the sights or dot? Or, do you just index the gun?

[breakingtime91]

My recent practice of the Bill Drill.

I am slow on the first shot, followup shots come quicker.

Question about how you guys shoot the Bill Drill. Do you see the sights or dot? Or, do you just index the gun?

See sights aligned, track front sight in constant recoil as best as possible. I try to account for shots similar to what I would do in a shooting but when shooting that quickly the sights are always going to be in constant motion

[Peally]

At 7 yards I'm watching the sights. Bill drills can be fun if you can nail a consistent grip.

[Clusterfrack]

What are you trying to accomplish with this drill?

I like Bill drills for training:

-Tracking the sights
-Working on grip
-Working on relaxation
-Working on timing of the recoil cycle and trigger reset/press
-Studying how grip affects sight orbit
-Learning how to not pull the trigger if the sight picture is fuct (can you stop your Bill and correct it?)
-and your draw has to be solid to clock a good time.

This drill is a great way to confirm that you’re doing everything mostly right. Last week I was training hard for Area 1 and shot consistent Bills at 1.54 - 1.60s.

But there are better ways to train some of these skills individually, so I don’t shoot many Bills.

And, yes, I’m always seeing my sights.

[SC_Dave]

What are you trying to accomplish with this drill?

I like Bill drills for training:

-Tracking the sights
-Working on grip
-Working on relaxation
-Working on timing of the recoil cycle and trigger reset/press
-Studying how grip affects sight orbit
-Learning how to not pull the trigger if the sight picture is fuct (can you stop your Bill and correct it?)
-and your draw has to be solid to clock a good time.

This drill is a great way to confirm that you’re doing everything mostly right. Last week I was training hard for Area 1 and shot consistent Bills at 1.54 - 1.60s.

But there are better ways to train some of these skills individually, so I don’t shoot many Bills.

And, yes, I’m always seeing my sights.

I'm working on several things that I think the Bill Drill requires. Grip, trigger manipulation, trying to see the dot sooner and tracking it through recoil. Which brought me to my question. I wasn't sure if I should be tracking the dot or shooting with a solid index. My personal goal is to get under 2 seconds concealed AIWB. The quickest time I have achieved so far is 2.26. I don't compete, I just like challenging myself and I enjoy the accomplishment of getting better.

The BD just seemed like a good drill to help with these things. Maybe I should be doing micro drills??? FWIW in the picture I was not on a timer. I was shooting fast but I was concentrating on mechanics not time.

[Clusterfrack]

That’s a very good time from concealment.

I recommend trying some runs not worrying about beating a par time. Just explore how technique affects your results and how you feel with a bullet hose in your hands.

I really like Ben Stoegers doubles drill. Just shoot two at a cadence from sights on target at various distances.

[Matt O]

To determine what you should be working on, we'd need to know what your individual component times are. If you're shooting a 2.26, my guess is it's the draw that's holding you back. For a 2 second or sub 2 second bill drill, you need to be at or below a 1 second draw. See how far off you are from that and work draw-focused drills in dry/live fire.

[GJM]

Unless your goal is to be a seven yard Bill drill specialist, I would try them at 10, 15, 25 and 35 yards. Stage 13 at a match last weekend had a Bill at 50 yards with a fixed par of six seconds. If you like seven yards, Garcia two inch dot drills are excellent.

I see the dot, although depending upon distance I accept different levels of dot placement and movement.

[SC_Dave]

To determine what you should be working on, we'd need to know what your individual component times are. If you're shooting a 2.26, my guess is it's the draw that's holding you back. For a 2 second or sub 2 second bill drill, you need to be at or below a 1 second draw. See how far off you are from that and work draw-focused drills in dry/live fire.

Absolutely my draw is slow. These are my time on the 2.26

1.33
.22
.18
.17
.17
.19

[GJM]

Absolutely my draw is slow. These are my time on the 2.26

1.33
.22
.18
.17
.17
.19

Don’t be so hard on your draw. First, many times you read on the web are PR or near PR efforts. Second, you need a very different grip to shoot a fast and accurate Bill drill, compared to doing one and even two shot drills.

Your splits are excellent now, so I would be looking to broaden the types of drills you are trying and expand the distance envelope.