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    Waiting for my appointment with the specialist, but I have some instructions from my regular doc that mostly deal with diet due to the measured levels of uric acid.

    I also invested (heh!!) in a STI Tactical 5.0 SS to reduce muzzle flip with .45 ACP and another STI Trojan in 9x19. So far, 9x19 in a 1911 has been fine, and a box of .45 ACP is about the same with the Tactical 5.0. I am still shooting a lot of .22 LR, and I do not see that changing. The G17.3 is easier on me than the P30 LEM, and that may prompt a change in my carry gun.

    Some days are better than others and it seems to correlate to (positively) ambient humidity and (negatively) barometric pressure. Friday was nice, and I shot two hundred rounds through the STI Tactical 5.0. Yesterday was hot and dry, and I felt pretty good. I put a brick of .22 LR Gemtech Suppressor through a Volquartsen rifle and Ruger Standard-pattern pistol and shot Dot Torture with the P30 using 135-grain +P. Today is a rest day as the humidity is higher, and, of course, Mother's Day.

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    Ketogenic type of diet. Minimize carbohydrates, eliminate sugars, consume higher fats and moderate protein. Add Tumeric Curcumin to your daily intake.

    ETA - I have had chronic back pain from injury going as far back as the mid 90's and have been on about everything to maintain the pain since. Throughout my career with gear, training, etc, I have had 7 surgeries in the last 15 years. I was near 240 in Jan 2018. Went on the above diet. Down to 208lbs as I sit here, but the biggest thing is that I am virtually pain free in the joints, all joints. I have been this same weight in the past but never pain free.

    Father is 75 with swollen hands barely functioned. Same diet routine, his hands have little pain and he can use them again recently.
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    Costco - 1 x Glucosamine/Chondroitine + 1 x Glucosamine/MSM daily. Takes 4-6 weeks to build up in your system. Without it my arthritic knees ache 24x7. With it - they only when I do stuff to actually aggravate my knees.

    Experimenting with Turmeric - jury is still out for me.

    NSAIDs - I know two men who almost died from NSAID over-use (intestinal bleeding). I am trying hard to only use them when I really need them. When you need them - get enough in your bloodstream and keep enough in your bloodstream long enough (days) for them to actually work. Otherwise a simple pain relief like acetominophen may be a better short term solution.

    Getting old beats the alternative.
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    After using acetaminophen(Tylenol ingredient)frequently over time, blood tests showed unwanted effects on my liver. Remember, guys, that all these different medicines--prescription and otc--can cause harm and require monitoring. Acetaminophen is a component of Vicodin and maybe other pain meds so we can be taking the stuff and not know it.

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    For those that currently have problems shooting because of arthritis, are 4" K frames with 38 wadcutters problematic? How about something like a Ruger 22 auto target pistol?
    From my sample of one, the steel Ruger Mk pistol is very comfortable to shoot. I added the Volquartsen trigger and sear which gave a very short, light pull. The fixed receiver and bolt instead of a slide makes mounting a red dot easy.

    The grip angle may not work for everyone’s wrists. Some folks prefer the more vertical 22/45 versions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duces Tecum View Post
    Welcome to the club. Have a seat over there by the fireplace and don't worry about getting up. Chester always comes around every so often to help us out of our chairs. In the meantime he'll bring you a bourbon. I can see you're wincing. May I offer you the institutional knowledge given to me back when I was a new member? It doesn't always work, but it seems to work more often than not.

    01: Daily, whether you "need" it or not: Glucosamine with Chondroitin. Take as directed. I get mine at Costco. There's a bunch of us who meet at the Glucosamine rack and tell each other our complaints. No, it doesn't make any difference that they've been hearing the same complaints for years: nobody remembers. After "social hour" we visit the sample-ladies on our way to the bathroom.
    02: Daily, for chronic pain: cocktail of 400 mg ibuprofen and 1000 mg acetaminophen. Follow maximum dosage guidance on the labels.
    03: A topical cream for acute flare ups, particularly useful after saying, "Sure, I can do that. Used to do it all the time!": Voltaren Gel. Follow the directions.
    You should actually be using topical creams before you reach for the oral NSAIDs. Chronic use of NSAIDs like ibuprofen can lead to peptic ulcer disease - topical NSAIDs offer all of the benefits with none of the potential negative side effects of systemic NSAID use. Topical capsaicin is also worth considering, but is not as well tolerated as topical NSAIDs.

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    Nephrology, is the Voltaren Gel mentioned above a legit option, or is there another formula with better results? Also, what's the limit as to how deeply the topical treatments work? It seems like they would be good for the hands and fingers where the joint itself has little covering between the joint and the skin. How about for tendonitis or arthritis in the knee, or the Achilles tendon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Guy View Post
    Nephrology, is the Voltaren Gel mentioned above a legit option, or is there another formula with better results? Also, what's the limit as to how deeply the topical treatments work? It seems like they would be good for the hands and fingers where the joint itself has little covering between the joint and the skin. How about for tendonitis or arthritis in the knee, or the Achilles tendon?
    Voltaren is just a brand of Dicolfenac sodium (NSAID) 1% gel. If your local drug store sells a generic equivalent, I'd get that to save some pennies, but either is fine.

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    Farscott, take some time to go see a rheumatologist and get a more specific diagnosis. Overuse vs inflammatory vs metabolic have different treatments and implications.
    That too
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    Handling Arthritis

    Quote Originally Posted by Nephrology View Post
    Voltaren is just a brand of Dicolfenac sodium (NSAID) 1% gel. If your local drug store sells a generic equivalent, I'd get that to save some pennies, but either is fine.



    That too
    My understanding is that Voltaren gel works via systematic transdermal absorption and the local effects are pretty minimal. I donít think it avoids the systemic problems of NSAIDS, but could stand to research it more.

    ETA: nevermind, I was wrong. Serum concentrations are way lower with the cream.

    http://www.pharmacytimes.com/contrib...-risk-warnings
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    Many years ago I was in a drug store in Mexico and noticed this product: a topical cream made by Pfizer. The ingredient was Feldene. The topical cream gave almost instant relief. I bought a big sack full on the next trip. Later my doctor nixed Feldene pills for me because of its many side effects. If I could buy more now, I would. I don't know if the cream is available in the U.S.

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