The Truth Behind Federals HST 124+p Ammo

[HCM]

I believe I remember Doc saying something to the effect that Speer's short barrel 9 mm 124 +P Gold Dot is the same as the "non-short barrel" 124 +P Gold Dot, but that the other calibers in the short barrel line up can differ.

I was actually thinking about the Gold Dot G2 147 which has has noticeably poorer performance out of short barrels.

[Kyle Reese]

https://www.bonefroggunclub.com/coll...ammunition/9mm

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[veteran-USMC]

https://www.bonefroggunclub.com/coll...ammunition/9mm

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Many thanks for the LINK

[Kyle Reese]

Many thanks for the LINK

You bet.

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[Rock185]

From everything I have seen, the 124 +P HST in published gelatin tests looks to be one of the best performers out there. I've not done my own gelatin tests, but have tested the ammo in variety of guns for functional reliability and chronographed velocity. The ammo has been functionally reliable in at least 10 different semi-auto pistols, revolvers, and carbines I've tested it in. Velocities ranged from 1166 FPS in a 3.5" compact semi-auto pistol, to 1351 FPS in a 16" carbine.

That being said, I have to agree with the late Mr. Aagaard. It's shot placement. I've attended my share of autopsies. When fired from pistols, sometimes hollow points expand, sometimes they don't. Shot placement trumps all else......ymmv

[veteran-USMC]

From everything I have seen, the 124 +P HST in published gelatin tests looks to be one of the best performers out there. I've not done my own gelatin tests, but have tested the ammo in variety of guns for functional reliability and chronographed velocity. The ammo has been functionally reliable in at least 10 different semi-auto pistols, revolvers, and carbines I've tested it in. Velocities ranged from 1166 FPS in a 3.5" compact semi-auto pistol, to 1351 FPS in a 16" carbine.

That being said, I have to agree with the late Mr. Aagaard. It's shot placement. I've attended my share of autopsies. When fired from pistols, sometimes hollow points expand, sometimes they don't. Shot placement trumps all else......ymmv

Shot placement is King

[LOBO]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know the real (chronographed) difference between the 124 gr standard & the 124 gr +P load from 3.5" to 4" barrels?

[blake_g]

Everyone respects the good doctor...but so few follow his prescription:



Poor man. It must be like pulling teeth trying to get his message across.

I see what you did there... a dentist joke...

[blues]

I see what you did there... a dentist joke...

Nothing gets by you, Blake.

[FNFAN]

IIRC NYPD uses 124 +p Gold Dot and it works very well for them. Las Vegas Metro PD uses it with very good results. It's my 9mm defensive ammo choice.