From the bench my AR's will shoot tighter groups than my AK's.
From the shoulder I see no real difference.
From the bench my AR's will shoot tighter groups than my AK's.
From the shoulder I see no real difference.
I thought all AR carbines on the internet are 1 moa or better.
Likes pretty much everything in every caliber.
I'm just going to say it. I don't really like AR carbines. AR Rifles Rule the Universe! (ducking out quickly, going back to the 60's/70's)
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I don't need an MOA carbine either. My longest shot right now would be ~40 feet.
Doesn't mean I don't want an MOA carbine.
Oh shit, yeah. My WASR is sub MOA all day long with Wolf reloads.Originally Posted by GJM
I would venture most of mine are with Black Hills or precision handloads....but I don’t care. I have an SPR I hand load for, its a shooter for sure.
I zero my fighting guns with duty ammo, and my training guns with 55 fmj and leave it alone unless I think something is off. Most of the time, it was just me missing [emoji15]
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I was in that class with you. Good times!I shot this 11 round (or so) group from the prone at 100 yards in a @Kyle Defoor adv carbine class. For a 4MOA red dot, 16" carbine, and decades-old Soviet surplus 5.45x39mm ammo, I was very happy.
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I’m fine with being the unpopular one and saying no I don’t need a carbine or whatever that is 1-1.5 MOA but I wouldn’t be any worse for wear if I did.
I totally get the argument but I wouldn’t ditch a gun that shot 1.5 or better. Having equipment that is more capable/more inherently accurate aids in reducing margin of error in less than optimal conditions. Not that it makes up for shitty marksmanship/bad wind call etc. but it helps. When your ass is on the line no one is wishing their gun was less accurate or they had fewer rounds on tap. I always thought/wished my shit was lighter but that was about it and certainly never the latter.
Last edited by Mike C; 04-25-2018 at 07:56 AM.
I think you missed our points.
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