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    MSD Student Pulled Out Of Class, Questioned After Range Visit with Dad

    MSD student questioned by school security and BSO after tweet about going to the range with his dad.


    Kyle Kashuv, a student at the Florida high school where 17 people were killed in a February mass shooting, has claimed that school security officers pulled him out of class and questioned him Monday after Kashuv tweeted about visiting a gun range with his father.

    In a statement to The Daily Wire, Kashuv said he was called out of class at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School and told to see the security resource officer whom he identified as “Mr. Greenleaf.” Multiple reports from around the time of the Feb. 14 shooting identify Kelvin Greenleaf as a “civilian security monitor” or a “security specialist” at the school.

    According to Kashuv, a second officer joined Greenleaf and both men began “questioning me intensely.”...

    “First, they began berating my tweet, although neither of them had read it; then they began aggressively asking questions about who I went to the range with, whose gun we used, about my father, etc. They were incredibly condescending and rude,” Kashuv said.

    At that point, Kashuv claims, a Broward County sheriff’s officer joined them, “and began asking me the same questions again.” Kashuv said the officers declined to let him record the interview, but told him he hadn’t done anything wrong.

    “I asked why I was there,” Kashuv said. “One said, ‘Don’t get snappy with me, do you not remember what happened here a few months ago?’“ The teen also said that officers referred to him as “the pro-Second Amendment kid.”

    In a message to Fox News, Kashuv said that one of the officers told him, “Kyle, you have such good grades, why would you do this?”
    There's nothing civil about this war.

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    Not terribly unexpected, I guess, but it sure sounds like they're laying it on thick there.

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    I hope that's a wall to his left (our right)...

    (edited to add --but kudos to the kid for being outspoken)
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    Obviously, I support the kid's message/stance, and his subsequent treatment would warrant some pretty harsh scrutiny of the BC school board and BCSO if he were my son. I'm hoping the family presses the issue, and a certain pro-gun organization or law firm helps take up the flag if what the young man said in that article are true.

    That said, what you post on social media is available for public consumption. It can and will be called into question by persons and entities with opposing world views. If you enjoy or revel in that kind of drama and confrontation, cool, rock on, because it will be your reality, but nobody should act surprised when it happens to them.

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    We tell kids that if you see something, say something. Last week a teenager contacted me because she saw what could have been a suicide threat on social media. Parents were contacted and all is OK. Last year I had to deal with an explicit threat of school shooting and suicide. Would the kid ave done it? I have no idea, but because kids saw the threat and reported it, intervention happened before anyone could find out. The down side is that kids post all kinds of shit on social media, and some of it is going to be misconstrued.

    Which brings me to point number two. Don't post your life all over social media. Obviously that advice is pissing in the wind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hambo View Post
    We tell kids that if you see something, say something. Last week a teenager contacted me because she saw what could have been a suicide threat on social media. Parents were contacted and all is OK. Last year I had to deal with an explicit threat of school shooting and suicide. Would the kid ave done it? I have no idea, but because kids saw the threat and reported it, intervention happened before anyone could find out. The down side is that kids post all kinds of shit on social media, and some of it is going to be misconstrued.

    Which brings me to point number two. Don't post your life all over social media. Obviously that advice is pissing in the wind.
    I agree with everything you said, but the quickest perusal of his social media posts screams "nothing to worry about."
    #RESIST

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleLebowski View Post
    I agree with everything you said, but the quickest perusal of his social media posts screams "nothing to worry about."
    I didn't look but I have no doubt you're correct. Normally what happens is the SRO checks out the social media, and if it's "I went to the range with dad" that should be the end of it.

    Prior to MSD there was even some latitude as to what happened in the case of threats, because some are just teenage idiots with no real intention or ability. Now, especially in FL, kids who make threats are going to get the whole nine yards.

    Again, I'm not saying that this kid made a threat. However, in that school I would expect overreaction to everything for quite a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hambo View Post
    I didn't look but I have no doubt you're correct. Normally what happens is the SRO checks out the social media, and if it's "I went to the range with dad" that should be the end of it.

    Prior to MSD there was even some latitude as to what happened in the case of threats, because some are just teenage idiots with no real intention or ability. Now, especially in FL, kids who make threats are going to get the whole nine yards.

    Again, I'm not saying that this kid made a threat. However, in that school I would expect overreaction to everything for quite a while.
    We're in agreement, man. I'd be a a bit less outspoken if the SRO in this (new) story out of Parkland wasn't what appears to be a cowardly POS.
    #RESIST

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    This kid, like all the Parkland crew, is treading thin ice in an adult world trying to politicize this. The difference is that Hogg & co have big backing and coaching and this guy seems to be hung out on his own. He’s got to have a big target on his back, being the voice of dissent.

    Given that, everything he says has to be expected to get put under the microscope. They’re looking for him to trip up. To blow up at these inquiries, to lose his cool, to say something stupid. I hope he’s genuinely a good kid and they aren’t able to get his goat.

    It would be easier for him to shut up and disappear, but isn’t that what they’re trying to do? To silence the other side? If taken at face value as described, it sounds like something out of a dystopian novel. Thought police are there to intimidate the wrong-think right out of you.
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    For those who aren't up to speed, this isn't just some random kid from Parkland going to the range. Attempting to make him uncomfortable pretty much has to be on purpose:



    (I know how to embed the video, but I'm continuing an experiment to help Tom see if not embedding videos avoids Google's demonetization mechanism. Tom, if you know the answer already, just post up. Want to do what's best for you.)
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