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    Quote Originally Posted by rayrevolver View Post
    Congrats! I think my truck is that same color. It looks great when you wash it... something I don't do often enough.



    Wife started with an '12 or '13 A4 and it was a great car to drive. I am a long time aircooled VW guy and loved her A4. Now she has a Q3 and while the dynamics and powertrain are worse (shifts are not silky, there is a weird lag on the throttle), its still a solid car to drive.

    I can spend money on oil, no problem. And filters too. At one time I was a major oil snob, bought only German Castrol and visited BITOG forums. Just bought a case of AMSOIL for the truck and hopefully Q3.



    In aviation & space we destroy the Japanese and Europeans, on all engineering fronts. I just don't get it sometimes. Am I biased, maybe a little? My buddy works for JAXA and says they still struggle.
    Different industries and different focuses.

    I concur. It's odd but understandable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rayrevolver View Post
    I can spend money on oil, no problem. And filters too. At one time I was a major oil snob, bought only German Castrol and visited BITOG forums. Just bought a case of AMSOIL for the truck and hopefully Q3.
    We just leased a 2018 Toyota Highlander, which pretty much exudes quality on all counts. But the 0W-20 oil requirement for the sake of CAFE standard I find scary, especially coming from a turbocharged Subaru which beat up oil quickly. It's a lease so it will get the required 0W-20 synthetic sewing machine oil but if it were mine to keep, I might use something different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NH Shooter View Post
    We just leased a 2018 Toyota Highlander, which pretty much exudes quality on all counts. But the 0W-20 oil requirement for the sake of CAFE standard I find scary, especially coming from a turbocharged Subaru which beat up oil quickly. It's a lease so it will get the required 0W-20 synthetic sewing machine oil but if it were mine to keep, I might use something different.
    Subes are prone to gasket leaks and eating oil..it's just how it is, and for the vast majority not an issue for a long time unlike more mainstream I or V engines. It's been going on for more than a decade before they switched to 0-20 oil, so I wouldn't let that influence you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NH Shooter View Post
    We just leased a 2018 Toyota Highlander, which pretty much exudes quality on all counts. But the 0W-20 oil requirement for the sake of CAFE standard I find scary, especially coming from a turbocharged Subaru which beat up oil quickly. It's a lease so it will get the required 0W-20 synthetic sewing machine oil but if it were mine to keep, I might use something different.
    0W30 or 0W40 is better.

    I try to explain what you just posted to no avail - including the Service Managers and Techs.

    They don't seem to get it...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    I've always wondered what EXACTLY the Japanese do to get the reliability where it needs to be. It's DISCIPLINED FOCUS. Which involves testing and modeling and Quality Assurance.


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    Great post. I took an international business transactions course in law school where we examined this very question. Disciplined focus is for sure a cornerstone of it but it goes deeper into their business culture.

    American car manufacturers focus on the new. This all new design; this all new engine, this all new feature. Japanese brands do that too for the cosmetic stuff like electronics and appearance, but for the actual powertrain, frame, suspension, and critical components, the Japanese focus is much more on refining a good idea close to perfection.

    If you look at the engine, transmission, small high wear parts of a Honda Accord, they’re probably very similar 20 model years apart.

    So that’s what we learned. Honda/Toyota et. al. have a corporate focusing on, instead of “what’s our next big thing,” “how do we make our current thing do its thing even better.”

    I’ve come to truly admire that business approach, which is why I’ve enjoyed seeing the significant refocus, refinement, and reinvestment by Beretta on the PX4 and 92 series.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LockedBreech View Post
    So that’s what we learned. Honda/Toyota et. al. have a corporate focusing on, instead of “what’s our next big thing,” “how do we make our current thing do its thing even better.”
    This is precisely the Porsche corporate motto. Refinement over Innovation. The Porsche 911 has been in continual production since 1963, making it the second longest produced sportscar in existence (Corvette since 1953). Arguably, the 911 platform was not significantly altered until the introduction of the 996-series watercooled cars in 1998. Since then, refinement of the watercooled cars has been the primary focus of Porsche AG. The engine in a 2018 911 is different from its 1998 counterpart in terms of size and turbochargers, but it's the same basic architecture introduced in 1996 with the Boxster.

    Like the 911 the Boxster (and by proxy Cayman) have been in constant refinement since their introductions, until the latest update (the current gen 718 cars use a turbo flat 4, instead of an NA flat-6), the major changes were body redesign and transmission changes (e.g., Tiptronic to PDK, 5 to 6 speed, etc). Buying a ~2008 vintage Cayman/Boxster or even a 2015 car is just buying into a platform that was the focus of engineering refinement since 1996.

    Between 1996 and 2016 the Boxster/Cayman had two body facelifts and continual chassis and engine refinement. Between 1996 and 2016 the BMW M3 has been through four different platform changes, each generation significantly different from the previous version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevolverRob View Post
    This is precisely the Porsche corporate motto. Refinement over Innovation. The Porsche 911 has been in continual production since 1963, making it the second longest produced sportscar in existence (Corvette since 1953). Arguably, the 911 platform was not significantly altered until the introduction of the 996-series watercooled cars in 1998. Since then, refinement of the watercooled cars has been the primary focus of Porsche AG. The engine in a 2018 911 is different from its 1998 counterpart in terms of size and turbochargers, but it's the same basic architecture introduced in 1996 with the Boxster.

    Like the 911 the Boxster (and by proxy Cayman) have been in constant refinement since their introductions, until the latest update (the current gen 718 cars use a turbo flat 4, instead of an NA flat-6), the major changes were body redesign and transmission changes (e.g., Tiptronic to PDK, 5 to 6 speed, etc). Buying a ~2008 vintage Cayman/Boxster or even a 2015 car is just buying into a platform that was the focus of engineering refinement since 1996.

    Between 1996 and 2016 the Boxster/Cayman had two body facelifts and continual chassis and engine refinement. Between 1996 and 2016 the BMW M3 has been through four different platform changes, each generation significantly different from the previous version.
    I am pretty ignorant as a car guy, but I know that Porsche makes a sexy car. Just sadly one that doesn’t fit 6’5” 250 pound guys much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LockedBreech View Post
    Great post. I took an international business transactions course in law school where we examined this very question. Disciplined focus is for sure a cornerstone of it but it goes deeper into their business culture.

    American car manufacturers focus on the new. This all new design; this all new engine, this all new feature. Japanese brands do that too for the cosmetic stuff like electronics and appearance, but for the actual powertrain, frame, suspension, and critical components, the Japanese focus is much more on refining a good idea close to perfection.

    If you look at the engine, transmission, small high wear parts of a Honda Accord, they’re probably very similar 20 model years apart.

    So that’s what we learned. Honda/Toyota et. al. have a corporate focusing on, instead of “what’s our next big thing,” “how do we make our current thing do its thing even better.”

    I’ve come to truly admire that business approach, which is why I’ve enjoyed seeing the significant refocus, refinement, and reinvestment by Beretta on the PX4 and 92 series.



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    Yes, the US is thoroughly driven by Quarterly Profits.

    If you look at Honda, Toyota, BMW, VW they use the same engine blocks or engine family across a large product segment.

    BMW has I-6 engines in the 3 Series, 5 Series, X-3, X-5 vehicles. Things have changed a bit with them being turbocharged and all of the engine down-sizing but you get the drift.

    Honda and its inline 4s and excellent V6 - just like Toyota.

    One thing the Japanese were (and are) doing is refining systems and subsystems to a degree not normally seen in the US.

    BMW has done similar but still does not match Honda or Toyota/Lexus in reliability (subsystem, system or vehicle). They can produce one remarkable vehicle that the Japanese seem to struggle to match (the world struggles to match...) but with each passing iteration they get a little closer while BMW walks away from what they were once known for producing.

    Interestingly, the largest single investor in Mercedes Benz is now a Chinese firm.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LockedBreech View Post
    I am pretty ignorant as a car guy, but I know that Porsche makes a sexy car. Just sadly one that doesn’t fit 6’5” 250 pound guys much.


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    There is a lot of room in a 911. I'd suggest checking them out. Three-four different seat options exist. I bet they can find you a configuration that fits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevolverRob View Post
    This is precisely the Porsche corporate motto. Refinement over Innovation. The Porsche 911 has been in continual production since 1963, making it the second longest produced sportscar in existence (Corvette since 1953). Arguably, the 911 platform was not significantly altered until the introduction of the 996-series watercooled cars in 1998. Since then, refinement of the watercooled cars has been the primary focus of Porsche AG. The engine in a 2018 911 is different from its 1998 counterpart in terms of size and turbochargers, but it's the same basic architecture introduced in 1996 with the Boxster.

    Like the 911 the Boxster (and by proxy Cayman) have been in constant refinement since their introductions, until the latest update (the current gen 718 cars use a turbo flat 4, instead of an NA flat-6), the major changes were body redesign and transmission changes (e.g., Tiptronic to PDK, 5 to 6 speed, etc). Buying a ~2008 vintage Cayman/Boxster or even a 2015 car is just buying into a platform that was the focus of engineering refinement since 1996.

    Between 1996 and 2016 the Boxster/Cayman had two body facelifts and continual chassis and engine refinement. Between 1996 and 2016 the BMW M3 has been through four different platform changes, each generation significantly different from the previous version.
    Rob - What are your thoughts on the new Cayman / Boxster flat 4 vs the flat 6 engine in terms of the overall experience?

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