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    When should you begin training WHO skills??

    Perhaps this has been covered from other angles, but I didn't see any direct posts with this question, so forgive me if I'm double posting. *disclaimer done*

    I've always trained martial arts left and right sides IMMEDIATELY, but my introduction to shooting was through my father. Now I can see that he was an adequate teacher to get me on the range safely, but lacked sufficient skills to really 'teach' me how to shoot.

    Taking my studying of the pistol seriously over the last 2 years, I just began thinking about putting some solid time in with my WHO skills. I can't change how I started, but does anyone have a solid teaching rationale why I should hold off on or begin to accelerate my WHO skills??

    Thanks in advance for all the great advice I'm sure to see flowing soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaiHu View Post
    Perhaps this has been covered from other angles, but I didn't see any direct posts with this question, so forgive me if I'm double posting. *disclaimer done*

    I've always trained martial arts left and right sides IMMEDIATELY, but my introduction to shooting was through my father. Now I can see that he was an adequate teacher to get me on the range safely, but lacked sufficient skills to really 'teach' me how to shoot.

    Taking my studying of the pistol seriously over the last 2 years, I just began thinking about putting some solid time in with my WHO skills. I can't change how I started, but does anyone have a solid teaching rationale why I should hold off on or begin to accelerate my WHO skills??

    Thanks in advance for all the great advice I'm sure to see flowing soon.
    I highly recommend you get into a class with a good instructor sooner than later.

    It's important to practice SHO / WHO, but it's more important to practice them correctly. When you lose the support of a second hand on the gun fundamentals of accuracy become several times more important. Holding the gun correctly, using proper trigger control, having proper stance and posture, etc, all take on a magnified role in your shooting, and it's better to practice them the right way from day 1 than to have to do the unlearn/relearn thing later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beltjones View Post
    I highly recommend you get into a class with a good instructor sooner than later.
    Totally on it. I've logged and gotten certificates in 4 classes: 2 NRA and 2 Tactical. I'm taking the NRA Basic Instructor Training in 2 weeks and I'm going to AFHF with Todd in RI this August.

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaiHu View Post
    Totally on it. I've logged and gotten certificates in 4 classes: 2 NRA and 2 Tactical. I'm taking the NRA Basic Instructor Training in 2 weeks and I'm going to AFHF with Todd in RI this August.

    Thanks!
    Can you articulate proper SHO / WHO mechanics? I'm not saying there is only one way, or that I think you ought to type it out here or anything. But if you have a sense of what you should be doing, then I say go ahead and practice it.

    I also firmly believe that improving SHO / WHO trigger control is perhaps the best way to improve two hand supported trigger control.

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    I wish I would've started sooner.

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    BaiHu,

    Let's definitely try getting together this weekend like we talked about.

    SHO/WHO is like 1/2 to 5/8th's of my usual range session. I could show you some things that hurt/helped my results so you could play with them and find something. Nothing I was shown in any of the classes I took are things that helped my SHO/WHO results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TGS View Post
    BaiHu,

    Let's definitely try getting together this weekend like we talked about.

    SHO/WHO is like 1/2 to 5/8th's of my usual range session. I could show you some things that hurt/helped my results so you could play with them and find something. Nothing I was shown in any of the classes I took are things that helped my SHO/WHO results.
    Sounds good and I'll PM you as soon as I see what's happening with my schedule. I might be done even earlier with work.
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    IMO: 1/2 to 5/8 of a range session seems excessive for WHO and SHO skills.

    I don't find SHO shooting that difficult, probably because the trigger pull and grip are nearly identical to 2 handed shooting. WHO is not as easy for me, I'm much more likely to snatch the trigger.

    At each session, I shoot a mag or two (for each) SHO and WHO.

    3 times per week I try to get in some dry fire practice. I keep it simple and focus on technique rather than speed. My drill is normally:

    10 x Press Out
    10 x WHO Wall Drill
    10 x SHO Wall Drill
    25 x Reload from Slide Lock

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    Can anyone point to some good video or descriptions of SHO and WHO manipulations, specifically draws and reloads, preferably from AIWB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickA View Post
    Can anyone point to some good video or descriptions of SHO and WHO manipulations, specifically draws and reloads, preferably from AIWB?

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    +1. I can draw, press-out and fire SHO, but drawing WHO from AIWB is a contortion I haven't figured out yet.

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