Week 257: 10-8 Pistol Test

[Mr_White]

Week 257: 10-8 Pistol Test

Results may be posted until March 23rd, 2018.

Designed by: Hilton Yam
Range: 7 yards
Target: Silhouette with 8" body circle and 6x6" head box
Start Position: Concealed holster with hands at sides or retention duty holster from interview position
Rounds Fired: 65

Shots outside the 8" circle (body shots) and 6x6" head box (head shots) count as misses. Pick a par time (5, 6.5, or 8 sec) to use on all 12 strings of fire.

String 1: On the buzzer, draw from the holster and fire 4 shots to the body then 1 shot to the head, strong hand only

String 2: On the buzzer, from a high two-hand ready, transfer the pistol to the support hand then fire 4 shots to the body and 1 shot to the head, WHO

String 3: On the buzzer from a high ready with an EMPTY chamber; rack slide to chamber a round using the strong hand only, then fire 4 head shots all SHO

String 4: On the buzzer from a high ready with an EMPTY chamber; rack slide to chamber a round using the weak hand only, then fire 4 body shots followed by 1 head shot all WHO

String 5: Start with the pistol aimed at the target, slide locked open, empty mag, SHO; on the buzzer reload SHO and fire 1 shot to the body

String 6: On the buzzer, from the holster, draw and fire 7 shots to the body and 1 to the head

String 7: Start with 7 rounds loaded in the pistol; on the buzzer draw from the holster and fire 7 shots to the body, reload from slide lock and shoot 1 to the head

String 8: On the buzzer draw from the holster and fire 8 shots to the head

String 9: Start with 3 rounds loaded in the pistol; on the buzzer from a high ready, fire 2 shots to the body and 1 shot to the head, reload from slide lock and repeat the 3 shots

String 10: Start with 2 rounds loaded in the pistol; on the buzzer draw from the holster and fire 1 shot to the body and 1 shot to the head, reload from slide lock and repeat the 2 shots

String 11: Start with 4 rounds loaded in the pistol; on the buzzer from a high ready, fire 4 shots to the body, reload from slide lock and then fire 4 shots to the head

String 12: Start with 1 round loaded in the pistol and 2 additional mags with 1 rd each; on the buzzer draw from the holster and fire 1 shot to the body, reload from slide lock and repeat twice

Please report the following when you post your results in this thread:

Start position (concealed or duty retention holster)
PAR time selected
Total number of hits within the PAR time
Anything you noticed

Video of Jason Falla running the 10-8 Pistol Test:


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[BK14]

I shot this twice today. Both runs were using the same equipment, at a 6.5 sec par time on an Ipsc Target from 7 yards.

Equipment:
- ALS 7TS holster on a high-ride single strap shroud on my work belt. Reloads were from either an Esstac belt pouch on my offside, or a safariland horizontal pouch up front.

- Glock 17.4, cut-down beavertail blackstrap, Trijicon HD-XR sights.

- I was lazy and it was hot today, so I didn’t wear armor like Mr Falla.


Run 1:
59/65

Notes: My first string I threw the headshot just above the box trying to rush when I still had 3+ seconds to spare. The rest of my misses were when shooting WHO.

Run 2:

61/65

On the 2nd string, I threw 3 body shots WHO into the C zone. Somewhere along the way, I decided to slow down on a head shot, and broke the shot .2 after the par time.



Overall notes:

In general when I break down all the two handed stages, I can consistently stay below a 5 second par. When it came to the SHO/WHO, I started falling apart. I spent the last few months transitioning to a 1911, but had to switch back to the Glock due to gun issues. I haven’t spent much time dry-firing since I switched back which was really evident when looking at my one handed shooting today.

Overall, I think the 10-8 test is a cool overall evaluation, and specifically to my WHO shooting it was the wake-up call I needed to dedicate more time to practicing this awful trigger.


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[1Rangemaster]

Shot today at close of business, indoor range, Gen5/17. Target was a “negative” IPSC(center scoring cut out).
Holster gear: Safariland Level 3 on a “UFA”(flex adapter w/paddle and single leg strap);5th17 has Ameriglo yellow front night sight.
Time set at 8 seconds. Right out of the gate, SHO, pushed one a little left. Had one shot later @8.01 when I hit the slide stop early and had an empty chamber “click”-tap, rack, rock on...
Had tried this a couple of days earlier @6.5 secs., which was not satisfactory(58/65), at least one string OT. So, backed up to 8 seconds
and was in the high 5s/6s.
Noticed: lot of loads, but I like the one handed loading, and the one handed shooting. I’ll give this a go again for clean and a lower par.

[1Rangemaster]

Took another run, as it were, indoor range, G17/5 out of Level 3 rig. Set to 8 sec.par, as I wanted to shoot clean, or close.
64/65 under par. My support hand empty load needs work! Admittedly, an esoteric skill, but one doesn’t want to be the exception. Two rounds barely out to right; one with shooting hand only, one support. So, if you leave those out of the equation, 62/65. Again, seems like a lot of loading, but the shooting and support hand strings are good things. Also was glad to be shown work needed on empty chamber support hand load. Good drill/practice and will put this in rotation. Thanks to Mr. White and Mr. Yam of 10-8.