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    Site Supporter Mjolnir's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigT View Post
    How realistic is that for a German Policeman? I get the impression American Police draw their guns more and sooner than you would be likely to?
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    I don't know how often US police draw their gun. I do it rarely. But I had to do so on several occasions.
    And in all cases where I had to draw the gun on a suspect, I needed to reholster quickly.
    If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

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    Very happy to see the Bavarian police get another very high quality duty handgun. Luger, if you can share in an open forum, what’s the issued duty round?


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    At the moment It's this one for the P7.

    http://www.men-defencetec.de/en/prod...25a1a44f686d0b

    I guess we will stick with it. The other option is the RUAG Action 4, wich we use for the MP5. Boah rounds are verry similar.

    I'm not to happy with this choice, but I know that they will work under most circumstances with good shot placement.
    If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luger View Post
    At the moment It's this one for the P7.

    http://www.men-defencetec.de/en/prod...25a1a44f686d0b

    I guess we will stick with it. The other option is the RUAG Action 4, wich we use for the MP5. Boah rounds are verry similar.

    I'm not to happy with this choice, but I know that they will work under most circumstances with good shot placement.
    I don't seem to be able to go to that website, but in a nutshell, why are you not happy about it?

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    The testing (and pictures of bullets after shootings) I've seen, suggest:
    Penetration will be ok, unless you fire through a windshield.
    Expansion will be verry limited (about 11mm).

    I'd prefer a common JHP with more expansion and good results after hitting a windshield.
    Last edited by Luger; 02-18-2018 at 02:19 PM.
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