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    Quote Originally Posted by Toonces View Post
    If you're not even willing to try and figure out the question in the OP, why are you posting in a technical thread?
    I did, I counted one wall. It's the one before the big bangy noise. Duuuuuh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peally View Post
    I did, I counted one wall. It's the one before the big bangy noise. Duuuuuh
    What are you shooting? Even my $6,000 Cameron open guns have two walls.
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    1911s, so just one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    What are you shooting? Even my $6,000 Cameron open guns have two walls.
    VP9. I've never paid attention to a trigger enough to realize there was more than one wall unless said trigger was really atrocious (like my stock AR-15 one used to be). That was more like ice skating in a quarry.
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    How many walls does your trigger have?

    I’m not experienced enough to feel this effect I guess, my G19.5 takes up, then the required pressure to trip the sear is felt, and the Striker releases. So, one I guess?

    I also have a question. Being a numbers person, has there been any studies involving a measurement of Force over distance on a handgun trigger?

    Seems to me you could plot F (Force in Newtons) over X (trigger travel, in mm say) and depict this effect graphically?

    These “walls” would then show up graphically as local peaks in the F over X curve, right? I just think that would be cool. [emoji41]
    Last edited by RJ; 02-07-2018 at 09:42 AM.

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    I actually played around with this a bit during dryfire yesterday after reading this in your AAR. On my stock G19.4 I counted 3 walls. Thanks for sharing that insight from the class, I plan to play around taking up different amounts of slack during recoil/pressout depending on the type of shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_Jenkins View Post
    I’m not experienced enough to feel this effect I guess, my G19.5 takes up, then the required pressure to trip the sear is felt, and the Striker releases. So, one I guess?

    I also have a question. Being a numbers person, has there been any studies involving a measurement of Force over distance on a handgun trigger?

    Seems to me you could plot F (Force in Newtons) over X (trigger travel, in mm say) and depict this effect graphically?

    These “walls” would then show up graphically as local peaks in the F over X curve, right? I just think that would be cool. [emoji41]
    It would be easy to create a simple one by plotting the various weights indicated on a trigger gauge through the trigger's travel if the gauge was sensitive and responsive enough. To accurately describe the function would require some neat equipment.
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    I’ve actually seen this measured and plotted by computers in published research for precision rifle triggers. Interesting indeed!


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    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    What are you shooting? Even my $6,000 Cameron open guns have two walls.
    Ed Cameron makes nice guns!

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    If you would prefer not to think of it as “walls,” consider instead the amount of travel between where the initial wall is, and where the trigger finally breaks. In a Glock, the amount of travel between wall and break is nearly the amount of travel from touching the trigger to the wall. That is a lot of distance.
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