Berliner Polizei wählt HK SFP9 TR als neue Dienstwaffe

[Wendell]

(Berlin police chooses HK SFP9 TR as a new service weapon)

Replacing the SIG Sauer P6.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...ces-sig-sauer/

http://strategie-technik.blogspot.ca...p9-tr-als.html

https://www.heckler-koch.com/en/prod...-overview.html

TR-Trigger 30-35 N (according to German Technical Specifications)


SF-Trigger 20-25 N (Special Forces)

https://www.heckler-koch.com/en/prod...-overview.html

Dienstag, 12. Dezember 2017
Berliner Polizei wählt HK SFP9 TR als neue Dienstwaffe

<http://strategie-technik.blogspot.ca/2017/12/berliner-polizei-wahlt-hk-sfp9-tr-als.html>

[Hambo]

They had to change the name. The original "Volkespistole" brings back bad memories in Germany.

[P30]

The police of several other federal states use or will use the HK SFP9, too. Lower Saxony, for example, with approx. 24000 police officers.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_VP9#Users
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Dienstwaffen_der_deutschen_Polizei

So I guess, the SFP9 is overtaking the P30 as Germany's most frequent police pistol. I'm curious which new pistol Bavaria's police will choose.

[JonInWA]

I'm a little surprised that the Berlin Police specified a push-button magazine release instead of the paddle release. Any one have any insights as to why that was specified?

Best, Jon

[balance]

I find this strange. Police in Germany are allowed to use SAO pistols?

For the longest time I kept hearing about how the protocols for agency pistols in Germany to get adopted were so strict. Look at the other pistols on that link above for example. With the exception of the P7, they are all DA/SA pistols.

[Lon]

I find this strange. Police in Germany are allowed to use SAO pistols?.

It’s not an SAO, it’s a striker fired gun. There’s a difference.

[P30]

They had to change the name. The original "Volkespistole" brings back bad memories in Germany.

Can you elaborate on this? Which "original Volkspistole" do you mean? And which "bad memories"? As I understand it, the HK VP70 is the "original Volkspistole" and was developed in the cold war (relatively mild memories are connected with it).

I suppose HK does not call it "Volkspistole" in Germany, because this would be too politically incorrect. They would be hit by a shit storm from the mainstream media and so called "Gutmenschen" (= hypocrites and their useful idiots). I live in Germany, I know a little bit what's going on here. Firearms for civilians are very politically incorrect in Germany. Unfortunately (because the bad guys have them anyway).

[balance]

It’s not an SAO, it’s a striker fired gun. There’s a difference.

I was under the assumption that there was no difference as far as German police agencies were concerned.

Whether it is striker or hammer fired, the DA or SA designations signify the same thing, which is whether or not the trigger completes the cocking of the striker or hammer.

[HCM]

Can you elaborate on this? Which "original Volkspistole" do you mean? And which "bad memories"? As I understand it, the HK VP70 is the "original Volkspistole" and was developed in the cold war (relatively mild memories are connected with it).

I suppose HK does not call it "Volkspistole" in Germany, because this would be too politically incorrect. They would be hit by a shit storm from the mainstream media and so called "Gutmenschen" (= hypocrites and their useful idiots). I live in Germany, I know a little bit what's going on here. Firearms for civilians are very politically incorrect in Germany. Unfortunately (because the bad guys have them anyway).

There was a simplified service pistol by that name developed in Germany at the end of the war for arming the Volkssturm, basically the last ditch militia.

http://www.forgottenweapons.com/othe...stole-walther/

[HCM]

I'm a little surprised that the Berlin Police specified a push-button magazine release instead of the paddle release. Any one have any insights as to why that was specified?

Best, Jon

Supposedly the latest version of the SFP9 has a modular mag release convertible between paddle and button.