Beretta PX4 Storm .45 High round count, long duration usage.

[taroman]

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Additional note about my Wireless Remote Control Power Drill

Mr. Langdon has emphasized (and correctly so) that over cleaning is bad for your firearm. I wanted to make it clear that I am not saying otherwise. I clean thoroughly and probably more that anyone needs to, but here's the thing:

Other than in the bore, I do not use any type of wire brush or devise. A wire brush will remove your finish after time and round surfaces. It can wash out firing pin holes and weaken contact surfaces that are flush, square to square.

In addition to your favorite cleaning oil or solvent you can use a nylon tooth brush. I also use patches and paper towels pushed by wooden skewers. I shape the end of the skewer to fit my targeted area. Patches are better than paper towels, as paper towels and tissue can legally have trace amounts of rock and dirt debris within their mixture. Toothpicks can get some stubborn stuff, as well. Anyone wanting more detail, please ask.

My point? I do not disagree with the caution to not over clean. Proper, safe cleaning can add to longevity and reliability. Cleaning should be wireless.

No...

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Yes... Notice the skewer is shaped like a flat-head screwdriver to push a patch under the extractor claw.

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@ 30,000 rounds it's time for a full detail cleaning

This is 100% of all parts removed for cleaning and placed in groups.

[willie]

Are there special jigs, slave pins, or other tools or implements available to assist with disassembly/assembly? Otherwise, Beretta must employ 3 handed techs. Your post is most advanced and may even could tell Beretta things about their own product. 20 plus years ago I had an interesting conversation with a Beretta tech who had an opinion about a B92 technical question, and when I suggested that he pass the opinion up the line, he told me that nobody up the line wanted his opinion. Hence, that attitude is one reason that you can't talk to anybody up the line about your experience. But that's the way that such works in giant organizations.

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Update maintenance log (full log posted earlier in this thread)

Total refit, frame & slide, 100% parts removal and cleaning-
Replace trigger bar spring, hammer pin spring, decocker lever pin
& spring, extractor pin & spring, firing pin spring, slide catch
spring @30,000 1/28/18

All parts, clean

[DAB]

Update maintenance log (full log posted earlier in this thread)

Total refit, frame & slide, 100% parts removal and cleaning-
Replace trigger bar spring, hammer pin spring, decocker lever pin
& spring, extractor pin & spring, firing pin spring, slide catch
spring @30,000 1/28/18

All parts, clean

gahhh.....i could get to that point, i have punches and a hammer.....but then i'd be looking for a plastic baggie and a mailing label.

no offense, i'll just stick with field stripping and swapping hammer springs.

now....tab A, slot B.....

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Are there special jigs, slave pins, or other tools or implements available to assist with disassembly/assembly? Otherwise, Beretta must employ 3 handed techs. Your post is most advanced and may even could tell Beretta things about their own product. 20 plus years ago I had an interesting conversation with a Beretta tech who had an opinion about a B92 technical question, and when I suggested that he pass the opinion up the line, he told me that nobody up the line wanted his opinion. Hence, that attitude is one reason that you can't talk to anybody up the line about your experience. But that's the way that such works in giant organizations.

Willie, I understand your experience with Beretta! This is clearly compartmental thinking in the corporation. Customer Service does not get to know what the Gunsmiths know, Gunsmiths don't know what R&D knows, etc..

Special tools? Nothing that one can't get at Brownells. I'm sure there are advanced tools that one could be more expedient with. I use these.

Tools?



3rd hand? poor boy method



Paper clips and plastic can hold stuff, too

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As to better tools or advanced tools, Mr. Langdon would be more qualified to give a more complete answer.

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The proof is in the pudding

After the full detail disassembly, cleaning & reassembly I took it to the range today to get it dirty. 300 rounds and everything worked perfectly. Next up... 40,000

[DAB]

if that was a Chevy, you'd have 4 left over parts.....

[ralph]

if that was a Chevy, you'd have 4 left over parts.....

4 left over parts and it still would'nt run right...