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Thread: Beretta PX4 Storm .45 High round count, long duration usage.

  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by JTQ View Post
    I just noticed you are a new member. Welcome.

    You may not have seen our 2,000 round challenge. You could even do one and post it. https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....ound-Challenge

    Also, Ernest Langdon has done a bunch with his 9mm compact and full size and has threads for each. He comments in both about maintenance issues on both guns that have been in the 50,000 round range.

    PX4 Compact https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....DA-SA-Glock-19

    PX4 Full Size https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....Understatement!
    In one of those threads, he talks about talking with the designer (aka the one who should have your answers). On top of that I would think you should be able to find what the requirements were for, and the testing of the SD PX4. I would be interested to see if there are differences in the recommendations for the SD and standard models. You might PM him with this thread, as he may know more that would be of interest to several.

  2. #12
    Since Beretta re-tuned the extractor at the beginning (see log below), this pistol has been completely reliable.
    If I don't change the slide rebound spring between 4-5,000 rounds a tight magazine will slow the chambering of a 1st round, occasionally. That happened twice, long ago. No longer.

    The pistol is 100% reliable. I keep ahead on cleaning and lubricating, so function and wear & tear are exceptional.
    I use 6 dedicated range magazines (9 rounders, 1 10 rounder, blue) and 4 are dedicated to "dropping" to the ground.
    I only shoot off any battered +P rounds when I put in a new rebound spring.

    I don't know what else to put concerning tendencies. Please specify anything anyone wants to know.

    My EDC Storm .45 is set up identically, tested and put through the ringer for 2,086 rounds, then totally disassembled and "sterilized" It gets field stripped every few weeks for cleaning and re-lubrication. It runs flawlessly, always has.

    Here are the maintenance details below:


    ROUTINE MAINTENANCE: Logged chronologically from the bottom to the top
    Firing pin channel and internal slide parts cleaned, new firing pin
    block plunger spring, remove and clean slide catch & port
    @25,200 12/2/17
    Frame disassembly and clean: hammer group, trigger group, mag
    release, slide catch, breakdown latch & channel.
    Replace hammer strut pin, hammer pin spring & disassembly latch spring
    @20,300 9/30/17
    Firing pin channel and internal slide parts cleaned @20,000 9/23/17
    Firing pin channel and internal slide parts cleaned, new extractor
    roll pin. 6/25/17 @14,400.
    Frame disassembly and clean: hammer group, trigger group, mag
    release, slide catch @11,335 4/20/17
    Grease hammer pivot pin, hammer sides, hammer sears, trigger
    bar 5/3/17 @11,750
    Firing pin channel and internal slide parts cleaned. Remove
    and clean slide catch and port 3/4/17 @ 9,722
    Firing pin channel and internal slide parts cleaned, new decocker
    lever roll pin @5,004 2/4/16 (has single extractor
    spring)

    EXTRA MAINTENANCE: Logged chronologically from the bottom to the top
    Wash out firing pin block plunger (in place) with Beretta CLP oil
    (was feeling sticky) @17,550 8/19/17
    Remove and clean slide catch, spring & port 7/1/17 @14,800
    Replace decocker lever pin 7/1/17 @14,800
    Replace hammer pin 6/29/17 @14,600
    Replace Hammer pin spring (old one weak), also lube hammer
    group parts & trigger bar w/grease @14,200 6/17/17
    Lube hammer group parts & trigger bar w/grease @13,000 5/25/17
    Lube hammer group parts & trigger bar to
    trigger pivot w/Beretta oil @12,800 5/21/17
    Worked poorly. Action light, but creaky feeling.
    Slide catch removed for cleaning @6,675 4/2/16
    Remove and clean mag catch and area @5,686 2/20/16
    Received back from Beretta w/extractor adjusted and I put
    new Low Profile kit. 3/25/15
    Sent back to Beretta- failure to go to battery 3/10/15
    (as F model) @453 rounds
    Low profile kit 2/21/15



    HAMMER SPRINGS: logged chronologically from the top to bottom
    D hammer spring installed 4/13/17 @10,947
    Measured (round count is spring's):
    4/19/17 @288 DA 7lbs 14oz, SA 3lbs 14oz
    5/22/17 @1,853 DA 7lbs 5oz, SA 3lbs 12oz
    6/1/17 @2,453 DA 6lbs 8oz, SA 3lbs 12oz
    12/6/17 @14,523 DA 6lbs 8oz, SA 3lbs 12oz
    Last edited by PX4 Storm Tracker; 01-18-2018 at 05:39 PM.

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by beenalongtime View Post
    In one of those threads, he talks about talking with the designer (aka the one who should have your answers). On top of that I would think you should be able to find what the requirements were for, and the testing of the SD PX4. I would be interested to see if there are differences in the recommendations for the SD and standard models. You might PM him with this thread, as he may know more that would be of interest to several.
    That is a great idea.... only thing is... I tried talking to anyone at Beretta above the Customer Service level without success. I have talked to the Parts Manager and the Head Gunsmith, but they don't deal with high round count usage. They try to be helpful, but say that they don't encounter many people using their Storms that much, certainly not in .45.
    Often their information is inaccurate. They have to deal with a lot of Beretta products.

    We also have a .45 SD that we are using and monitoring. The PVD parts wear much more slowly.
    Last edited by PX4 Storm Tracker; 01-18-2018 at 05:32 PM.

  4. #14
    This is very interesting to me. Sounds like PX4 Storm Tracker is the guy to ask about the .45 for sure!
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  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by LangdonTactical View Post
    This is very interesting to me. Sounds like PX4 Storm Tracker is the guy to ask about the .45 for sure!
    You are very kind. Having you in this thread is great! Your videos and teachings are of great help and interest to me.

  6. #16
    Might have missed it but did you replace the recoil spring assembly at all? If not that’s very impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PX4 Storm Tracker View Post
    Since Beretta re-tuned the extractor at the beginning (see log below), this pistol has been completely reliable.

    Sent back to Beretta- failure to go to battery 3/10/15
    (as F model) @453 rounds
    Low profile kit 2/21/15
    Man. Great post. I had a 45 PX4 a few years ago that did this. I highly suspected the extractor. I wish I had followed through. I traded the unit in with disclosure for a 92 variant.

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by MSparks909 View Post
    Might have missed it but did you replace the recoil spring assembly at all? If not that’s very impressive.
    So sorry! I mentioned that I change the slide rebound spring every 4-5,000 rounds, but forgot to put the data. (New at this)

    Here it is in chronological order bottom to top:
    CHANGE FROM SPRING:
    #6 @ 28,240 1/7/18
    #5 @ 23,000 11/4/17
    #4 @ 18,000 8/28/17
    #3 @ 13,400 5/31/17
    #2 @ 9,252 11/26/16
    #1 @ 4,746 12/19/15

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by fixer View Post
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