That is just painful to watch. I see this every day with co-workers, the indecisiveness to take the appropriate level of action. Thankfully the hostage and innocent bystanders were not harmed.Originally Posted by voodoo_man
That is just painful to watch. I see this every day with co-workers, the indecisiveness to take the appropriate level of action. Thankfully the hostage and innocent bystanders were not harmed.
not an LEO, but I watch LIVE PD....at what point is lethal force warranted as he makes those moves towards the unknowing hostage? Coupled with the repeated "it doesn't have to be like this" and "what's your name?" It just appeared fruitless, but again I drive a fire truck to pay my mortgage I only ask due to curiosity.
Look! Just because we're bereaved, that doesn't make us saps!
I don't know the backstory, but lethal force was likely justified before the video begins. You have a subject with weapon in hand. The officers saw his finger on the trigger. The subject refused to obey all commands. The subject moved from an isolated location to a location with other people. The subject could have fired at an officer or another person in less than a second - which would have made it extremely difficult for the officers to prevent.
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Edited to add the following:
The Police Center account has the following text associated with the video:
Backstory strengthens my conclusion that lethal force was justified from the very beginning.The Fairbanks Police Department released bodycam and dashcam video involving the fatal shooting of James Robert Richards from last year. Prosecutors say no charges will be filed against the police because investigators found the officer's actions were an appropriate use of force given the circumstances. Police were initially called to the scene after James assaulted two residents and threatened them with a gun. When police arrived the suspect refused to drop his weapon and comply with orders, resulting in the shooting.
Last edited by Kukuforguns; 02-27-2017 at 07:34 PM.
Yes, painful to watch. Once I've given clear commands without compliance and most certainly if I've had some type of acknowledgement that the commands were heard, a "yes,no,f-you." I'm looking for the best possible backstop. That could have gone soooo bad.
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2 Berettas? yes. An AR and a Taser? not sure about that.
Wow, that sucked. Except for the officer that finally nutted up and shot him. That video should have been a lot shorter.
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-1 for running around with an unslung AR, then -5 points for having a tazer in the offhand as well. Definitely a facepalm moment.
I was waiting for the off camera cruiser to hit ramming speed and take the guy out....i've seen it done in the past....
Look! Just because we're bereaved, that doesn't make us saps!
Wait....Did those cops LET him take a fucking hostage?
I try to not be too judgemental, but come the fuck on.
Imagine if that was your family member waiting at the bus stop. Holy shit, the choice words I'd have for those motherfuckers.....
Last edited by TGS; 02-27-2017 at 11:17 PM.
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