But for the grace of God she does not get smashed by an incoming train, let alone basic head trauma from a fall like that.
It's COVID Time, they know they are being filmed by passers-by and/or security cameras. Not easy to police in NYC subway, even on a good day.
After the first time he kicked, I have to wonder whether they would have been within policy to land strikes and /or deploy OC.
She is blessed.
I'm aware of several. My former agency changed the taser policy to where we could only tase fleeing suspects if they were wanted for a felony because of it.Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's
If I came across as...errr...cross, then I apologize. The first bad guy I tazed in the field was a burglar running away from me. When I tazed him he assumed the plywood position and fell face first on the sidewalk, breaking every bone in the right side of his face. The continuum of force frowns on that now....
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What are you considering 'serious'?
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NYC subways run on electric. Grace of god she didn’t hit or roll onto the third rail too.
OC primarily relies on pain compliance and IME crazy people don’t feel pain when spun up. Him kicking is assault and for my (and most agencies) strikes, including Baton strikes would be within policy but look like crap on video.
LVNR needs to make a come back.
On a cultural note, turnstile jumping is only a misdemeanor but NYPD Transit takes I seriously because the overwhelming majority of felonies and violent crimes committed in the transit system are committed by turnstile jumpers, i.e. most turnstile jumpers are more than turnstile jumpers.
Having had my share of episodes on the NYC subway system, I concur. Have seen some bad things in that subterranean arena.
There's nothing civil about this war.
Injury to the brain or a fractured skull, I guess.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...218-story.htmlThe rule change is a step in the right direction, said Dominique Franklin Sr., whose 23-year-old son died after an officer deployed a Taser while trying to arrest him for allegedly stealing a bottle of vodka from a downtown convenience store in 2014. Dominique Franklin Jr. fell and hit his head on a pole, suffering a fatal head injury.
Also:
http://www.rightthisminute.com/video...s-brain-injury
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-no...wales-41593006
https://europepmc.org/article/med/27423132
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ice-taser.html
https://billingsgazette.com/news/sta...cc4c03286.html
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26885773/n.../#.XpuEKy2ZNQI
https://www.tampabay.com/news/crime/...-sheriff-wont/
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/...f-head-injury/
https://www.cnn.com/2014/01/31/us/te...oma/index.html
https://www.joplinglobe.com/news/loc...c5573d948.html
http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions...-20350-CV0.pdf
Ha, yeah that'd count. I guess our ground is softer and heads are harder. As far as I'm aware we've yet to have anything that would count as SBI from a tasing and I worked in the office that would have investigated it.
We're not allowed to tase for fleeing only anyway, though. Nor if they are standing on something they can fall off of, on a bicycle, etc.
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Seems like a lot of the time, when you tase somebody running (or at least when I have), the connection isn't good enough to get the full lock-up when they go down.
I have seen a couple people lock up hard and go skidding down the road on their face, though.
No apology necessary.In hindsight, my post implied disapproval of that particular UOF, or Tasers in general. That was not my intention.
For what it's worth, I remember when running from the police, or fighting them, had... consequences. And everybody understood that. I think modern UOF policies often hamstring officers and can cause more harm then good. But I'm out of my lane, and probably preaching to the choir.
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