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    Also, a couple years ago out of Oklahoma with Tulsa PD.


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    Quote Originally Posted by blues View Post
    I'd be very curious to see what the repercussions of that maneuver would be. (Both in Canada or here in the States.)
    The video is several years old (March 2005) and is Toronto Police basically doing exactly was described. I have no idea (looked but couldn't find) if any negative repercussions followed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yung View Post
    Also, a couple years ago out of Oklahoma with Tulsa PD.

    You never bring a gun to a demolition derby. Nice work on the part of the officer!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by blues View Post
    I'd be very curious to see what the repercussions of that maneuver would be. (Both in Canada or here in the States.)
    I seem to remember an Explorer being put to good use somewhat recently, on a divided highway, maybe a bridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith E. View Post
    I seem to remember an Explorer being put to good use somewhat recently, on a divided highway, maybe a bridge.

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    Yep. I've seen several videos where a vehicle is used as a tool to dispatch miscreants. I'm just curious what the aftermath brought, if anything, to the officers driving the vehicles involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blues View Post
    Yep. I've seen several videos where a vehicle is used as a tool to dispatch miscreants. I'm just curious what the aftermath brought, if anything, to the officers driving the vehicles involved.
    I wonder the same about another incident. One of my DT instructors in the basic agent course used lethal force during a domestic when the dude grabbed a knife in the kitchen.

    He didn't shoot him, but rather went hands on since he was an MMA fighter and its what his "lizard brain" was most familiar with. The incident ended when he broke the perps skull open with repeated elbow strikes with resultant brain matter on the kitchen floor.

    Completely justified, but I shiver to think what would have happened if it had been a couple years later when the anti-cop media firestorm had ensued. The act of breaking open someone's skull like Ser Gregor Clegane would probably get "exploited" by social media/media these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blues View Post
    Yep. I've seen several videos where a vehicle is used as a tool to dispatch miscreants. I'm just curious what the aftermath brought, if anything, to the officers driving the vehicles involved.
    Locally we had a cop killer (he killed 3 citizens and two cops in about 10 hours) running around. When found on a motorcycle the LT called out on the air that lethal force was authorized in the apprehension. The motorcycle was PITed at about 35 miles an hour. Officer was commended, is now a sergeant, he had songs written about him, and young maidens lined his path with flowers. Suspect still lives in the state nuthatch. Will likely never stand trial.

    I have always been taught that lethal force is lethal force and would not think twice about running someone over that really needed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's View Post
    They said "intox room" and I saw a breath instrument in there. When we still used breath tests (we do all blood now)
    Off topic, but that is odd. Our courts are going the other way. Asking someone in custody for consent to stick a needle in them is coercive. We can only get blood now with a search warrant. The last DWI I had a refusal on was involved in four or five wrecks before he totaled his truck against a fire hydrant. Handed me an AZ licence, which I also ran out of NM, and learned that he was revoked for a prior DWI. Wrote my warrant and affidavit, called the judge and she very slowly and patiently as if talking to a small child informed me that in this county there was no way I was getting a search warrant for blood on a non-felony DWI....Affirmed in my next DWI update.

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    We’ve been doing blood draws for DUIs for misdemeanors for 30+ years. When you get a DL in AZ it’s part of getting it that you’ll give a chemical sample if you’re arrested for DUI and it’s the Officer’s choice. If you refuse the test you get an Admin Per Se suspension for a year. Then we write a warrant and tell the suspect we have a warrant to draw blood. If the suspect refuses to allow it then draw it anyway using force as needed. If we have to use force you get another charge for disobeying a court order.
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    Yeah, it used to work that way here, same principles, different processes. It changed within the last 2 years. Refusal to give a sample changes the charge to Agg DWI with an administrative one year suspension. I preferred getting blood. Breath was faster, blood allowed us to test for other stuff. Strong investigative skills and good report writing would provide "impaired to the slightest degree", while anything in the blood gave us a chemical to hang the impairment on.

    We also cannot testify to standardized clues in the HGN, and that has been case law since before my 21 year career started.

    Strangely some wierd NM court rulings have been underscored by USSC from similar cases from different states, sometimes decades later, setting them in stone.

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