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  1. #1741
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRoland View Post
    The only home invasion that ever happened in my small town used headlights fully illuminated and cell-phone flashlights. There's no way to navigate a rural night otherwise.

    Both (ultimately friendly) nighttime trespassers I've dealt with have had lights.

    "Bad guys don't use lights" might be an urban thing. There are no street lights here.
    Same thing here. I had my yard cased at 3am by a guy with one of those vehicle mounted spotlights, on a state trooper surplus SUV. My first reactions was, WTF are the troopers spot lighting my yard for, second reaction as it slow rolled past was that hey that's not a trooper license plate. The guy was busted breaking into a neighbor's place the next night.

    One of the rare murders here was perpetrated at night when the perp shut off the generator providing electricity to a home. When the homeowner stepped out to see what was up, he was greeted with a high powered LED flashlight to the eyes and a bullet to the face.

    Every single trespasser I have busted in the last decade has had some sort of headlamp/flashlight. It's only been a half dozen in those years, but when I see flashlight I don't think LEO.

  2. #1742
    Having been involved in a large number of foot chases, area searches, and canine searches, there are far more "unknowns" and "good guys" out there than suspects. Decisional shooting is vital. During the Dorner searches on this very board we have hashed out when and why to muzzle people, that we are behind the power curve, but that we absolutely have be sure before launching rounds. That is a large part of what makes this job dangerous.

    A much larger agency then mine has completely redone how they do canine searches. They will drive the perimeter of their search area making repeated PA announcements. They give instructions to the residents, and instructions and warnings to the suspect(s). Then all perimeter units need to report that they heard the announcements. 20 years ago I would have rolled my eyes, but this seems like a good idea now. Homeowners are told what they need to know, suspects are told what they need to know, and it seems to be working well for a large urban agency.

    This was not a canine search, but I also go to a lot of open door/suspicious circumstances calls as well. I have been surprised by homeowners while conducting searches, and even muzzled a couple. No one has been shot. I use the ALERRT modified scan of whole person, hands, waistband, demeanor, immediate area scan. I have also been the homeowner when a foot chase came through my yard, and another time Igot dressed for work, heard something on my front yard and found a local and federal SWAT team in my yard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11B10 View Post
    "Every time I was burgled.....?" I'm thinking I might be considering a change of address.
    It rains on the just and the unjust, according to some old book, and, in my experience, working an area with both tarpaper shacks and Houston’s “Old Money,” no place is immune to being burgled. (I reckon “tarpaper” is dating me; not exactly sure when tarpaper gave way to Tyvek.)
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    Regarding hand-held illumination devices, a small flashlight, and sometimes not-so-small, are stereotypical burglars’ tools. What has recently changed, is that cheap lights now have lumens to match the expensive ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex G View Post
    It rains on the just and the unjust, according to some old book, and, in my experience, working an area with both tarpaper shacks and Houston’s “Old Money,” no place is immune to being burgled. (I reckon “tarpaper” is dating me; not exactly sure when tarpaper gave way to Tyvek.)


    What's "Tyvek?" Just kidding, Rex, but I'm sure I've got a few years on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex G View Post
    Regarding hand-held illumination devices, a small flashlight, and sometimes not-so-small, are stereotypical burglars’ tools. What has recently changed, is that cheap lights now have lumens to match the expensive ones.

    I'm sure "Mrs. 11B10" would say that really good flashlights have become TOO inexpensive. They are just so cool!

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