New Federal Hydra-Shok Deep

[Tokarev]

Interesting.

Wasn't Hornady the first to offer a defensive 135gr 9mm? It must be a good practical weight between 124 and 147 as Federal is now offering a new "Hydra-Shok Deep" with a 135gr bullet.

https://www.ammoland.com/2018/01/fed...#axzz53LqaxV9N

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[lyodbraun]

That hollow point tip looks just like the hornady critical duty round with the polymer plug taken out, interesting new round I'll get some and test but stick with my 147g+P HST...

[Totem Polar]

Paging @DocGKR...

My initial impression is to keep on keeping on with my preference for 124 GDHP, but I hope somebody wakes me if Federal puts out a 135 deep in .38+P. I’ve been waiting for a modern reboot of the 147+P+ Hydra-Shok to no avail; sounds like they might have a chance to do something good for the old .38 Special if they don’t cock it up. I haven’t been motivated to get up off the couch for the 130 HST yet.

An up-powered 135 deep competitor to the 135 GDHP in .357 mag could also be cool. They could call it the "balls deep."

[WDR]

Just looking at the unsupported jacket at the tip... I'm guessing it wont fare well against hard barriers like glass or steel. I could be wrong, but that is my guess. It looks like this will probably be more geared towards the self defense market than the LE market. Probably hoping to capitalize on the well known HydraShock name. I don't understand "why" they'd bother ... when they have a bunch of HST bullets that perform really well. But new stuff sells.

ETA: The dual cannelures do look like they'd help keep the jacket and core together, similar to Critical Duty and HST

[Tokarev]

Just looking at the unsupported jacket at the tip... I'm guessing it wont fare well against hard barriers like glass or steel. I could be wrong, but that is my guess. It looks like this will probably be more geared towards the self defense market than the LE market. Probably hoping to capitalize on the well known HydraShock name. I don't understand "why" they'd bother ... when they have a bunch of HST bullets that perform really well. But new stuff sells.

ETA: The dual cannelures do look like they'd help keep the jacket and core together, similar to Critical Duty and HST

Some HST 147 has a dual cannelure. I wonder if this doesn't help reduce pressure by relieving some surface area. Or it could be there to help lock the jacket and core together.

It seems somewhat odd to me that Federal still loads the Hydra when the HST is such a good design. It would seem counterproductive to have a load that's a direct competitor to the HST. What does the Hydra-Shok offer that the HST does not?

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[Sigfan26]

Interesting.

Wasn't Hornady the first to offer a defensive 135gr 9mm? It must be a good practical weight between 124 and 147 as Federal is now offering a new "Hydra-Shok Deep" with a 135gr bullet.

https://www.ammoland.com/2018/01/fed...#axzz53LqaxV9N

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Federal was the first (to my knowledge) with this traditional Hydra Shock loaf
https://www.luckygunner.com/9-mm-135...eral-20-rounds


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[DocGKR]

The first 9 mm 135 gr load was the 9 mm Federal Tactical bonded load:

9mm Fed 135 gr +P JHP LE9T5 (lot #3 24T318) S&W 5906

Bare: VEL = 1070 f/s PEN = 16.0” RD = 0.58” RL = 0.36” RW = 126.6 gr

Denim: VEL = 1067 f/s PEN = 16.3” RD = 0.55” RL = 0.45” RW = 134.0 gr

[voodoo_man]

"Deep"

Why not just use a flat nose 147gr round at this point which you know will over penetrate...?

[Mitchell, Esq.]

ATK owns Federal & Speer so is it really shocking that there is technology bleeding from one product line to another?

Hydrashock is getting upgraded...

We live in an age of frame lock Emerson knives available in Walmart, surefire lights available on amazon, reliable handguns available for $275 (S&W Shield) & hydrashock coming into the 21st century!

An age of wonderful things.

[Mitchell, Esq.]

Some HST 147 has a dual cannelure. I wonder if this doesn't help reduce pressure by relieving some surface area. Or it could be there to help lock the jacket and core together.

It seems somewhat odd to me that Federal still loads the Hydra when the HST is such a good design. It would seem counterproductive to have a load that's a direct competitor to the HST. What does the Hydra-Shok offer that the HST does not?

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Name recognition.