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  1. #91
    Strange, I find in the latest version of USPSA CO:

    21.2b
    Milling of slide
    A slide may be modified specifically for the
    purpose of installing optical sights or cocking
    serrations.
    Code Name: JET STREAM

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    So are they going to change the weight limit for CO?

  3. #93
    Change from what? The latest version on USPSA.org is

    18 Maximum weight Yes, 45 oz, including optic and empty magazine

    Same in IDPA provisional CO

    B. Maximum weight including empty magazine will not exceed 45 ounces.
    Code Name: JET STREAM

  4. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Watson View Post
    Strange, I find in the latest version of USPSA CO:

    21.2b
    Milling of slide
    A slide may be modified specifically for the
    purpose of installing optical sights or cocking
    serrations.
    Yeah, OK for USPSA which is what Iím building. I got the impression not so for IDPA, which matters so much less to me.

  5. #95
    "Impressions" may not match the rules. I find for IDPA CO

    A. Handguns, associated modifications, restrictions, holsters, magazine carriers, calibers, start
    condition, and division capacity shall be compliant with ESP Division requirements, except as it
    relates to sights, lasers and overall weight.


    and

    8.2.2.2 ESP Permitted Features and Modifications (Inclusive list):
    N. Checkering, serrating, and stippling.


    Looks to me like you will be able to swing both ways.
    Code Name: JET STREAM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Watson View Post
    Looks to me like you will be able to swing both ways.
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    The biggest difference is that IDPA Carry Optics will allow 1911/2011 style guns, which I donít think USPSA CO allows yet.

    IDPA CO doing this makes me happy because I always thought CO was stupid and we should have kept Modified.
    I shot the PX4 before it was cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Watson View Post
    Change from what? The latest version on USPSA.org is

    18 Maximum weight Yes, 45 oz, including optic and empty magazine

    Same in IDPA provisional CO

    B. Maximum weight including empty magazine will not exceed 45 ounces.
    Thank you, Jim. I hadn't seen that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caleb View Post
    The biggest difference is that IDPA Carry Optics will allow 1911/2011 style guns, which I donít think USPSA CO allows yet.

    IDPA CO doing this makes me happy because I always thought CO was stupid and we should have kept Modified.
    Modified only lives on in spirit with "Shooting Sports USA" (the arcade game)

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    Quote Originally Posted by caleb View Post
    The biggest difference is that IDPA Carry Optics will allow 1911/2011 style guns, which I donít think USPSA CO allows yet.

    IDPA CO doing this makes me happy because I always thought CO was stupid and we should have kept Modified.
    This essentially got me interested in shooting a dot again for competition. My 2011 dot gun is a commander with a slide mounted rmr, and competing in USPSA Open with it is a little rough as its not legal for CO. With IDPA allowing it thus far, it's got me shooting/focusing on IDPA a bit more now. With the upsurge of 1911/2011 slide mounted red dot options available, as well as the "relaxing" of the USPSA CO rules, I hope, though doubt, they will be included at some point.
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