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    Don't mess with old dudes


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    Old guy walked in like I remember Jim Brown walking back to the huddle back when I was a kid.

    There's a lesson here, to be sure.
    There's nothing civil about this war.

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    I love it. I bet that express lane trip to the tile flooring rang robber dude’s bell pretty well. That’s unfun on a mat, let alone for keeps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blues View Post
    Old guy walked in like I remember Jim Brown walking back to the huddle back when I was a kid.

    There's a lesson here, to be sure.
    Or Earl Campbell

    Great body slam by the old guy, nice work..

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    I've met many more old dudes that have crested the hill decades ago, that thought they were still something they used to be, to be honest. I am NOT AT ALL saying ALL old dudes are like this, but in my experience dealing with them when they get aggressive, a lot of 'em are. Glad this one was not!


    I'd also like to point out that people don't give a shit about you. See those two chicas? They SPLIT. They didn't yell "WHAT CAN WE DO?" They lit outta there. If someone isn't your tribe, then anything they do to aid you is dumb luck, is what I've learned.

    I first saw this as a scared 16 year old as my grandpa showed me that he still had quick reflexes. his goal was to powerslide the car into a drive-way. Reality ended with him overshooting, and us ending up in the ditch. No harm no foul, but that day I saw an old guy who used to be a real badass (could lift a 350 engine block over his head, back in the day, lived through the great depression, bought his first house cash, you name it, he did all the "badass Greatest Generation" type stuff) come to grips with the reality of the present. I didn't understand then, but I do now, why he was more sad than anything. I guess the moral is, don't have "that moment" at the wrong time, and that I've seen many an old guy learn it when they decided to get aggressive with staff and I've had to help them to understand that respect is going to be the order of the day.
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    Perhaps one lesson is figure out what skills you want myelinationed into your brain before you get to the age where picking skills up is hard. I imagine old boy has done that a time or three.

    I started to do daily dry fire, ala Claude Werner's 1000 days of dry fire, about three weeks ago. One day I hope I can have a good trigger press grooved into my neurons well enough that I will do it in my 60s or 70s like a well trained 35 year old.

    Now as to the unarmed skills...*sigh*

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    ^^^Unobtanium, I think you're painting with way too broad a brush based upon the above and a handful of incidents. (Though I understand your point.)

    The folks on this board as a whole would certainly agree that the guy got lucky under the circumstances as even a younger, fitter man can be the casualty of his own self-confidence.

    Most of us more senior folks around these parts are certainly aware:



    Then again, having a few years experience can be an asset under certain circumstances. You throw the bones, you take your chances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemsoldier View Post
    Perhaps one lesson is figure out what skills you want myelinationed into your brain before you get to the age where picking skills up is hard. I imagine old boy has done that a time or three.

    I started to do daily dry fire, ala Claude Werner's 1000 days of dry fire, about three weeks ago. One day I hope I can have a good trigger press grooved into my neurons well enough that I will do it in my 60s or 70s like a well trained 35 year old.

    Now as to the unarmed skills...*sigh*
    I leave my Blackhawk demonstrator on the coffee table and pick it up numerous times a day just to have the feel of the G17 in my hand and practice sight acquisition and a steady pressure on the (un-moving) trigger. I am fully convinced of its utility from having employed it to incorporate a grip change a few months ago which was wholly successful in a very short period of time.
    There's nothing civil about this war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blues View Post
    ^^^Unobtanium, I think you're painting with way too broad a brush based upon the above and a handful of incidents. (Though I understand your point.)

    The folks on this board as a whole would certainly agree that the guy got lucky under the circumstances as even a younger, fitter man can be the casualty of his own self-confidence.

    Most of us more senior folks around these parts are certainly aware:



    Then again, having a few years experience can be an asset under certain circumstances. You throw the bones, you take your chances.
    Yep. I wasn't referring to people on this forum, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemsoldier View Post
    Perhaps one lesson is figure out what skills you want myelinationed into your brain before you get to the age where picking skills up is hard. I imagine old boy has done that a time or three.

    I started to do daily dry fire, ala Claude Werner's 1000 days of dry fire, about three weeks ago. One day I hope I can have a good trigger press grooved into my neurons well enough that I will do it in my 60s or 70s like a well trained 35 year old.

    Now as to the unarmed skills...*sigh*
    The big thing I encounter, is that the problem-causers which are older, are usually Vietnam era vets. The hand to hand they know is mostly brawling type stuff, and the people that gave them their godlike self-images, were about 80# lighter than me and didn't fight or lift weights much, themselves, aside from brawling. It usually goes super poor for them as they will do the Verbal insult/demanding behavior--->Posturing--->Get shut down. If some of the older guys actually HAD real hand to hand skillsets, I do not think they would be nearly as easy to shut down when they try to go hands-on with me. If you stay active, you do NOT lose as much strength as people think. Your reaction time WILL grow, but solid skill-sets are going to stay with you. I am sure we can all find those videos of "70 year old former boxer knocks out mugger...". So build those skill-sets, stay active, and I bet you can hold your own well into your 70's, no BS. It's just that MOST people in their 70's today have no real skillset there. Not all, please don't allege I said that, but MOST are just brawlers.
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