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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Lehr View Post
    The Fiocchi's are quite a bit more inexpensive:

    https://miculek.com/product/fiocchi-12inert/

    The primary difference is the snap caps have the primer pocket cut and a plastic plug to cushion the firing pin, the Fiocchi Action Proving Dummies are like the old Winchester Action Proving Dummies in that they Don't have the primer pocket cut out, the firing pin rapidly dimples in the case head and doesn't cause any problems.
    I've been looking for a source for those, thanks!

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    While were on the topic of emergency reloads, what is a good goal time to have? Im just trying to gauge (pun intended) my current emergency reload skill level to that of more experienced thunderstick toters.

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    Your puns make me recoil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NPV View Post
    While were on the topic of emergency reloads, what is a good goal time to have? Im just trying to gauge (pun intended) my current emergency reload skill level to that of more experienced thunderstick toters.
    On a pump gun, under 2 is doing pretty good.

    I usually hover around 1.35-1.5 seconds.

    On the 1301 I'm a skosh faster at 1.1-1.3 seconds.

    I'm doing this from a Vang Comp side saddle.
    3/15/2016

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Lehr View Post
    The Fiocchi's are quite a bit more inexpensive:

    https://miculek.com/product/fiocchi-12inert/

    The primary difference is the snap caps have the primer pocket cut and a plastic plug to cushion the firing pin, the Fiocchi Action Proving Dummies are like the old Winchester Action Proving Dummies in that they Don't have the primer pocket cut out, the firing pin rapidly dimples in the case head and doesn't cause any problems.
    Thank you for the link! Ordered 2 boxes. Brownells is out of them.

    And thanks to TCINVA, I was getting ready to ask about your dummy round preferences myself. I know I read them before but couldn't remember your recommendation. I really can't wait to get some formal shotgun training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCinVA View Post
    On a pump gun, under 2 is doing pretty good.

    I usually hover around 1.35-1.5 seconds.

    On the 1301 I'm a skosh faster at 1.1-1.3 seconds.

    I'm doing this from a Vang Comp side saddle.
    What are the start/end points for this timing? That is, is it
    (bang) reload (bang) in 1.XX seconds
    -or-
    with bolt locked back (beep) reload (bolt forward with round chambered)?

    Or something else?

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    Murder Machine, Harmless Fuzzball TCinVA's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by GyroF-16 View Post
    What are the start/end points for this timing? That is, is it
    (bang) reload (bang) in 1.XX seconds
    -or-
    with bolt locked back (beep) reload (bolt forward with round chambered)?

    Or something else?
    It's based on a demo I do in class. One round in the gun. From low ready, fire a shot, perform a reload, fire another shot. This all happens in under 2 seconds. The split between the two shots is the reload time. Total time includes presentation to first shot.

    Similar to what is seen in this video:

    https://www.facebook.com/13497961986...04337416940000
    3/15/2016

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