I really like these for loading from, and easily carrying a reasonable number of extra rounds:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/23...shells-polymer
I really like these for loading from, and easily carrying a reasonable number of extra rounds:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/23...shells-polymer
Likes pretty much everything in every caliber.
I thought you did a great job on presenting what you know, which is citizen defensive use. Stuff was covered by everyone, but I found what was missing was the high level actual operational use and training when done right and an emphasis on what is wrong. It would be like talking about citizen home defense use without anyone there who has both lived and poured their training regimens into that and everyone just saying citizens are all jacked up on how they do it and don’t train....which is mostly true, but what we are trying to change.
My slug opinion comes from doing hundreds of select slug transitions in the field, under stress with live people involved, and actually fired two after the transition to them from buckshot. I am not unique in my old area, but what is getting unique is that many of us are retiring and so is the knowledge. These podcasts and other means are a way to keep that stuff in play and build new expertise. Trust me, based on extensive conversations with USBP, their shotgun program is a shadow of what it once was. That is a mirror of the entire country. As stated, we have made huge strides forward on the guns and ammo. What is missing is operational correct experience based training stuff.
I didn’t find the podcast wrong, just lacking on the how to fix things on the LE side.
Just a Hairy Special Snowflake supply clerk with no field experience, shooting an Asymetric carbine as a Try Hard. Snarky and easily butt hurt. Favorite animal is the Cape Buffalo....likely indicative of a personality disorder.
"If I had a grandpa, he would look like Delbert Belton".
I had an ER nurse in a class. I noticed she kept taking all head shots. Her response when asked why, "'I've seen too many people who have been shot in the chest putting up a fight in the ER." Point taken.
Another training niche is use of the shotgun for protection against bears and other four legged predators. Leaving aside LE, hunting and 3 gun, my guess is the shotgun is rarely deployed by civilians off a square range environment. In AK, there are many people carrying a shotgun with slugs daily, and they may have to use that shotgun to save their lives against a incredibly capable adversary. Besides some parts of the Gunsite Backcountry course, I haven’t seen much training that is geared to that use.
Likes pretty much everything in every caliber.
Perfect example of my points. So, below is a picture from working crime suppression mid 90’s. Look at how my side saddle is set up on a department gun I put my own side saddle on and light. Sort of state of the art accepted practice at the time. LAPD Metro learned about the negatives of hulls down set up on the side saddles during extended action with shotguns during the LA riots and a long shootout in Nickerson Gardens. They came up with the most efficient hull up loading procedures, and I got it from them and changed the way we did reloads (which is why I call it a Metro load). Again, we learn a lot when we field test stuff. Solid TTPs are developed from stuff we use in the square range, but test in the field under real world stress.
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Just a Hairy Special Snowflake supply clerk with no field experience, shooting an Asymetric carbine as a Try Hard. Snarky and easily butt hurt. Favorite animal is the Cape Buffalo....likely indicative of a personality disorder.
"If I had a grandpa, he would look like Delbert Belton".
Metro load @ 3:35?
Last edited by 167; 12-20-2017 at 11:17 AM.