147gr "high velocity" 9mm in gel

[lyodbraun]

Bare gel didn't even bother with denim testing.. HST and original Golddots are the way to go...

[Unobtanium]

Bare gel didn't even bother with denim testing.. HST and original Golddots are the way to go...

Kindof what I've been hearing, as well. HST works damn well, nowdays. The gold dots did/do, too. This G2 stuff...

[Tokarev]

Kindof what I've been hearing, as well. HST works damn well, nowdays. The gold dots did/do, too. This G2 stuff...

I recently got a couple boxes of the G2 40 S&W. It worked great. Expanded nice in bare and with clothing.

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[lyodbraun]

Went out today to test few rounds as always the new G2 only had one round expand out of four... the critical duty rounds with the polymer plug removed did very well compared to with the plug in and of course the regular gold dots were good as well as the HST

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[Tokarev]

Went out today to test few rounds as always the new G2 only had one round expand out of four... the critical duty rounds with the polymer plug removed did very well compared to with the plug in and of course the regular gold dots were good as well as the HST

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What are you shooting into?

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[lyodbraun]

What are you shooting into?

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These were into the ballistic gel, not the real stuff, with a few layers of shirt material as a barrier, lost or threw out all my denim pieces..

[Bort]

I bought a bag of mixed pulled 9mm bullets from American Reloading awhile back. After sorting, I ended up with a few 147gr premium hollowpoint bullets. I loaded these with Viht 3N38 using data listed on their website.

First off, the published charge fills the case almost all the way. There isn't much room to seat bullets so I ended up with overall lengths in the 1.145" area. But even at the slightly longer lengths all loaded rounds passed the plunk test in a USP and 320.

I loaded four 147gr Federal HST, four Hornady XTP and four Speer Gold Dot using FC cases and CCI primers. This morning I fired for velocity and also fired two rounds of each into 10% gel from Clear Ballistics with the following results:

USP 9mm 4.25" barrel:

XTP avg 1,113fps with a high of 1,115 and a low of 1,111. One bullet penetrated 12" while the other went 17".

Gold Dot avg 1,115fps (chrono missed 2nd bullet) with penetration of 13" and 14"

HST avg 1,109.50fps with a high of 1,120 and a low of 1,099. Penetration was right about 14" for both.

Recoil was fairly stout but primers seem fine, etc. Velocities weren't as high as those listed in the Viht data but I assume much of that's based on barrel length.

And, for comparison, here are velocities from a SIG P320C. No gel data for these, just velocity:

147 XTP avg 1,076.50fps with a high of 1,079 and a low of 1,074.

147 Gold Dot avg 1,060fps. High 1,061 and low of 1,059.

147 HST avg 1,102fps. High 1,106 and 1,098 low.

Recovered bullets placed largest to smallest. The HST came out about 0.72in. The Gold Dots are close behind at about 0.65in and the XTP came out about 0.60in. The HST and Gold Dot appear to have retained 100% weight as did one XTP. The other XTP is now showing 139.8gr.

Overall, not too shabby.

I'll try again with some clothing. Hopefully sometime next week.



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Those are very impressive results. Did you have any issues clambering the XTPs in your USP seated at ~1.145? I just bought a P30 and noticed that they chamber fine but it takes great effort to extract the chambered round. I just want to be sure it is safe to fire being jammed in there so tight. I don’t have this issue in my PPQ.

[Tokarev]

Those are very impressive results. Did you have any issues clambering the XTPs in your USP seated at ~1.145? I just bought a P30 and noticed that they chamber fine but it takes great effort to extract the chambered round. I just want to be sure it is safe to fire being jammed in there so tight. I don’t have this issue in my PPQ.

No, sir. No issues noted.

[witchking777]

These results are making me question carrying G2 in my Gen 5 G17,I would think that with the nose pre-filled it would perform better/expand easier than a traditional hollow point,I'm considering going back to the 147 gr HST,considering I can get it at almost $10 cheaper per box/50. Thoughts?

[lyodbraun]

These results are making me question carrying G2 in my Gen 5 G17,I would think that with the nose pre-filled it would perform better/expand easier than a traditional hollow point,I'm considering going back to the 147 gr HST,considering I can get it at almost $10 cheaper per box/50. Thoughts?

Yeah I won't carry it either, you can also get regular Golddots at much cheaper prices as well and perform better as well.. IMO until I can get a Box of the G2 to expand everytime I won't use or carry it...