The Reckoning: Sexual Harassment

[Chance]

Charlie Rose today. Let's see... Oliver Stone, Jeffrey Tambor, Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, Louis C.K., Roy "That Would Have Been Out of My Customary Behavior" Moore, Kevin Spacey, Al Franken, Brett Ratner, Andy Dick (...seriously, how is Andy Dick still walking around a free man?), and plenty more.

I'm a little ambivalent, as I've seen false accusations first-hand and I think it's prudent to take accusations with respectful skepticism. But with all of the above mentioned, my first reaction has been, "Yeah, I can totally see him doing that."

Thoughts?

[Ichiban]

I view the current situation like an animal caught in a leg trap:

The animal (DNC/MSM) is chewing its own leg off (sacrificing its own members) to get out of a trap (Trump presidency).
They think that this will give them the moral authority to go after Trump on harassment charges.

I don't think for one second that they give a crap about any individual harassment by their elites but they view it as a tool to use against Trump if they can get the public to buy the false outrage.

YMMV.

[Chance]

The animal (DNC/MSM) is chewing its own leg off (sacrificing its own members) to get out of a trap (Trump presidency).

I've seen nothing to indicate this is an anti-Trump political maneuver. Plenty of people on both sides of the aisle are getting accused, and it's not as if Trump needs help getting people to hate him.

[Ichiban]

I've seen nothing to indicate this is an anti-Trump political maneuver. Plenty of people on both sides of the aisle are getting accused, and it's not as if Trump needs help getting people to hate him.

Maybe not but I don't see too many names on your list that are associated with the Rs.
Maybe they are just cleaning house now that they don't have to protect Slick Willie anymore.
I just worry that they are going to end up conflating harassment with assault and end up degrading the seriousness of the later.

[blues]

I'm hoping some powerful women will be outed soon so that we can all get back to business as usual.

As I mentioned to my wife, outside of an attempted or successful forceful violation, the injured party should just kick the offender (if a man) in the nuts, give him a smack in the chops and get on with it. (Report the matter to employer if it's work related.)

I'm being somewhat facetious but this daily "me too" finger pointing and sniveling (in regard to some more trivial issues being reported) seems to detract from the attention needed regarding (sexual) misconduct of a significantly higher order.

[okie john]

Charlie Rose today. Let's see... Oliver Stone, Jeffrey Tambor, Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, Louis C.K., Roy "That Would Have Been Out of My Customary Behavior" Moore, Kevin Spacey, Al Franken, Brett Ratner, Andy Dick (...seriously, how is Andy Dick still walking around a free man?), and plenty more.

I'm a little ambivalent, as I've seen false accusations first-hand and I think it's prudent to take accusations with respectful skepticism. But with all of the above mentioned, my first reaction has been, "Yeah, I can totally see him doing that."

Thoughts?

I think you left Bill Clinton off of the list.


Okie John

[RoyGBiv]

I'm enjoying this particular circus. Limitless schadenfreude.

Still.... If Hillary doesn't go to prison for espionage, I'll know this country is truly, thoroughly, fucked.

[Chance]

I think you left Bill Clinton off of the list.

I was focusing on recent accusations. Unfortunately, H.W. Bush is on the list as well, and probably the only one I was sad to see added.

I do want to see Bill get his day though, along with all the "feminists" who stuck up for him when the shit hit the fan.

I'm hoping some powerful women will be outed soon so that we can all get back to business as usual.

I'm sure it's coming at some point. I think most of this is as much of a power dynamic thing as it is related to sex. Terry Crews already mentioned one such incident, but refused to name who was involved.

As I mentioned to my wife, outside of an attempted or successful forceful violation, the injured party should just kick the offender (if a man) in the nuts, give him a smack in the chops and get on with it. (Report the matter to employer if it's work related.)

I agree on the swift kick in the balls, but I think that's an oversimplification. Back when I was young and pretty I was actually harassed by my immediate supervisor at one point: train wreck of an older woman and it still gives me the creeps. It's not a situation that easily navigable, and that's when I didn't have to fear for my safety.

[blues]

I agree on the swift kick in the balls, but I think that's an oversimplification. Back when I was young and pretty I was actually harassed by my immediate supervisor at one point: train wreck of an older woman and it still gives me the creeps. It's not a situation that easily navigable, and that's when I didn't have to fear for my safety.

I did say I was being "somewhat facetious" in that post...

[RoyGBiv]

Powerful Dem Rep. John Conyers hit by report on sexual conduct with ex-staffers