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    Recommended Home Defense Shotgun In New Jersey

    Gentlemen 2 days ago NJ elected a new Democratic Gov. who stated NJ will have stricter & tougher Gun Laws-will try to ban AR-15 rifles. I am looking into purchasing a semi-auto shotgun! I follow the rule of buying what my wife(5'tall & 135lbs.) can handle.
    What do shooters think of Mossbergs 20SA semi-auto shotgun? Also can a woman the size of my wife handle a Berreta 1301-Tactical semi-auto shotgun? Ranges in NJ don't rent shotguns in my area-- so its you have to know for sure what will work for your needs!
    Any suggestions on the above along with any recommended semi-auto shotguns that are reliable are welcomed.

    PS I am a former Marine Veteran who has a lot of rifle experience & limited shotgun experience!
    Last edited by veteran-USMC; 11-09-2017 at 01:23 PM.
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    Check gas operated 12 gauge shotguns. If a range doesn’t rent it, try going to a trap range and talk to shooters.

    I’m bias to the Remington 11-87, since I have two.

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    Unless your wife can't handle the weight of a 12 gauge shotgun, there isn't any reason to go out of your way to pick up a 20 gauge for home defense. Low recoil 12 gauge 8 pellet 00 buckshot, like the Federal and Hornandy LE offerings, will be pushing about the same weight load at about the same velocity as a 20 gauge load, but have much better terminal performance.
    Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right.

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    my personal opinion: the 20ga shockwave has a chance to be a great home defense firearm.

    also, if you're close enough to make it to Clinton Wildlife Management area this Sunday the 12th at 9am, you're more than welcome to attend Shotgun Shootout: Pumpkin Edition.
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    Good Morning Shooter! Presently I own a Tavor X95 -5.56 cal, rifle--sweetest rifle I have shot in my entire life. At 500 yards in the Marines I could hit the bullseye with a Colt M16--this rifle is even more accurate.
    A N.J. Dem. Senator -Loretta Weinberg proposed banning the following list of guns in NJ-

    w. "Assault firearm" means:
    (1) The following firearms:
    Algimec AGM1 type
    Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder such as the "Street Sweeper" or "Striker 12"
    Armalite AR-180 type
    Australian Automatic Arms SAR
    Avtomat Kalashnikov type semi-automatic firearms
    Beretta AR-70 and BM59 semi-automatic firearms
    Bushmaster Assault Rifle
    Calico M-900 Assault carbine and M-900
    CETME G3
    Chartered Industries of Singapore SR-88 type
    Colt AR-15 and CAR-15 series
    Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1 and Max 2, AR 100 types
    Demro TAC-1 carbine type
    Encom MP-9 and MP-45 carbine types
    FAMAS MAS223 types
    FN-FAL, FN-LAR, or FN-FNC type semi-automatic firearms
    Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12 shotguns
    G3SA type
    Galil type Heckler and Koch HK91, HK93, HK94, MP5, PSG-1
    Intratec TEC 9 and 22 semi-automatic firearms
    M1 carbine type
    M14S type
    MAC 10, MAC 11, MAC 11-9mm carbine type firearms
    PJK M-68 carbine type
    Plainfield Machine Company Carbine
    Ruger K-Mini-14/5F and Mini-14/5RF
    SIG AMT, SIG 550SP, SIG 551SP, SIG PE-57 types
    SKS with detachable magazine type
    Spectre Auto carbine type
    Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48 type
    Sterling MK-6, MK-7 and SAR types
    Steyr A.U.G. semi-automatic firearms
    USAS 12 semi-automatic type shotgun
    Uzi type semi-automatic firearms
    Valmet M62, M71S, M76, or M78 type semi-automatic firearms


    Weaver Arm Nighthawk.

    Thank-fully our past Gov-Christy vetoed this proposal.
    A new Gov is in town-Gov. Murphy a Dem. who says he's going to reverse all of Christ's veto's!

    My Tavor X95 is legal along with the AR-15 rifles. I wonder if this new Gov bans all AR-15 weapon systems if the companies who made such weapons can make them legal again? A few years ago NJ banned all AR-15 rifles and the companies of these weapons found ways to make them legal again. Truthfully I wish I was better at law so I could understand what just might happen in NJ. This Tavor X(% cost me $1800.00 & I don't wish to lose this fine rifle. I,m just wondering if my weapon ends up being banned if you can still use it for home defense in a lethal encounter.


    PS Having fought for this country to have freedom is a joke because in NJ they are trying to take away all our 2nd amendment rights. Any opinions you have about the fore-mentioned -please share.

    Time for more coffee!
    USMC...helping enemies of America die for their countries since....1775 !

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    veteran:

    I'm pretty sure all of those firearms were banned in New Jersey long before Christie was elected. Here is what Wikipedia says on the subject (and based on previous research I think it is correct):

    Under New Jersey law, a firearm is classified as an "assault firearm" if it meets the following criteria:[25]
    Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and at least two of the following: Folding or telescoping stock
    Pistol grip
    Bayonet mount
    Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
    Grenade launcher mount
    Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and at least two of the following: Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
    Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
    Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
    Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
    A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
    Semi-automatic shotguns with at least two of the following: Folding or telescoping stock
    Pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon
    A magazine capacity exceeding six rounds
    An ability to accept a detachable magazine

    Banned manufacturers, models, and types[edit]

    The following manufacturers, models, and types are namingly banned:[26]
    Armalite AR-180 type
    Australian Automatic Arms SAR
    Avtomat Kalashnikov type semi-automatic firearms
    Beretta AR-70 and BM59 semi-automatic firearms
    Bushmaster Assault Rifle
    Calico M-900 Assault carbine and M-900
    CETME G3
    Chartered Industries of Singapore SR-88 type
    Colt AR-15 and CAR-15 series (Colt Match Target Rifle are allowed)
    Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1 and Max 2, AR 100 types
    Demro TAC-1 carbine type
    Encom MP-9 and MP-45 carbine types
    FAMAS MAS223 types
    FN-FAL, FN-LAR, or FN-FNC type semi-automatic firearms
    Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12 shotguns
    G3SA type
    Galil type Heckler and Koch HK91, HK93, HK94, MP5, PSG-1
    Intratec TEC 9 and 22 semi-automatic firearms
    M1 carbine type
    M14S type (M1a's are allowed)
    MAC 10, MAC 11, MAC 11-9mm carbine type firearms
    PJK M-68 carbine type
    Plainfield Machine Company Carbine
    Ruger K-Mini-14/5F and Mini-14/5RF
    SIG AMT, SIG 550SP, SIG 551SP, SIG PE-57 types
    SKS with detachable magazine type
    Spectre Auto carbine type
    Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48 type
    Sterling MK-6, MK-7 and SAR types
    Steyr A.U.G. semi-automatic firearms
    USAS 12 semi-automatic type shotgun
    Uzi type semi-automatic firearms
    Valmet M62, M71S, M76, or M78 type semi-automatic firearms
    Weaver Arm Nighthawk

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    I wouldn't even think about using that rifle as a defense weapon in NJ, whether or not that specific one has been banned. It doesn't sound like you live in a small Texas town that's been transplanted to the northeast, so an AR or equivalent is right out. I'd get a basic shotgun, for sure. And look at moving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veteran-USMC View Post
    Good Morning Shooter! Presently I own a Tavor X95 -5.56 cal, rifle--sweetest rifle I have shot in my entire life. At 500 yards in the Marines I could hit the bullseye with a Colt M16--this rifle is even more accurate.
    A N.J. Dem. Senator -Loretta Weinberg proposed banning the following list of guns in NJ-

    w. "Assault firearm" means:
    (1) The following firearms:
    Algimec AGM1 type
    Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder such as the "Street Sweeper" or "Striker 12"
    Armalite AR-180 type
    Australian Automatic Arms SAR
    Avtomat Kalashnikov type semi-automatic firearms
    Beretta AR-70 and BM59 semi-automatic firearms
    Bushmaster Assault Rifle
    Calico M-900 Assault carbine and M-900
    CETME G3
    Chartered Industries of Singapore SR-88 type
    Colt AR-15 and CAR-15 series
    Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1 and Max 2, AR 100 types
    Demro TAC-1 carbine type
    Encom MP-9 and MP-45 carbine types
    FAMAS MAS223 types
    FN-FAL, FN-LAR, or FN-FNC type semi-automatic firearms
    Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12 shotguns
    G3SA type
    Galil type Heckler and Koch HK91, HK93, HK94, MP5, PSG-1
    Intratec TEC 9 and 22 semi-automatic firearms
    M1 carbine type
    M14S type
    MAC 10, MAC 11, MAC 11-9mm carbine type firearms
    PJK M-68 carbine type
    Plainfield Machine Company Carbine
    Ruger K-Mini-14/5F and Mini-14/5RF
    SIG AMT, SIG 550SP, SIG 551SP, SIG PE-57 types
    SKS with detachable magazine type
    Spectre Auto carbine type
    Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48 type
    Sterling MK-6, MK-7 and SAR types
    Steyr A.U.G. semi-automatic firearms
    USAS 12 semi-automatic type shotgun
    Uzi type semi-automatic firearms
    Valmet M62, M71S, M76, or M78 type semi-automatic firearms


    Weaver Arm Nighthawk.

    Thank-fully our past Gov-Christy vetoed this proposal.
    A new Gov is in town-Gov. Murphy a Dem. who says he's going to reverse all of Christ's veto's!

    My Tavor X95 is legal along with the AR-15 rifles. I wonder if this new Gov bans all AR-15 weapon systems if the companies who made such weapons can make them legal again? A few years ago NJ banned all AR-15 rifles and the companies of these weapons found ways to make them legal again. Truthfully I wish I was better at law so I could understand what just might happen in NJ. This Tavor X(% cost me $1800.00 & I don't wish to lose this fine rifle. I,m just wondering if my weapon ends up being banned if you can still use it for home defense in a lethal encounter.


    PS Having fought for this country to have freedom is a joke because in NJ they are trying to take away all our 2nd amendment rights. Any opinions you have about the fore-mentioned -please share.

    Time for more coffee!
    Brother,
    Come to Pennsylvania where sanity still prevails.
    S/F,
    Shumba

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shumba View Post
    Brother,
    Come to Pennsylvania where sanity still prevails.
    S/F,
    Shumba
    I wish it was that easy! Lived in Lansdale,Hatfield,Penna.
    USMC...helping enemies of America die for their countries since....1775 !

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    Beretta 1301 Tactical.

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