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    Quote Originally Posted by SamAdams View Post
    So I take it that current Advantage Arms conversions are good-to-go ? I have one for a G20sf 10mm frame that I've had for awhile. I'd like to pick up one for a G19 now. Thanks
    Mine doesn't work with the bulk pack stuff...but the quality .22 ammo cycles it just fine.

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    In the dark past, when I hadnt shot or carried the 1911 in a while, Id shoot a brick or two of 22s through the conversion unit and be fairly well up to speed again compared to not shooting as much. It was also the days when I loaded everything on a single stage press, so shooting that much 45 at a time wasnt likely. Dont know the ratios, but Ive always shot far more 22 than anything else for general practice and fun. It used to be cheap to shoot 22s a lot. Not quite so much now, but still better, and no time spent at the reloading bench.

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    While I'm reasonably well set as regards .22LR semiautomatic pistol options for mimicing centerfire semiauto training, I've not so far found much by way of currently-available .22LR DA revolvers which have trigger actions close to those of quality centerfire DA revolvers; all seem to have harder, "stacky" trigger pulls.

    I'm sure the current Smith 617 & maybe some of the older Colts (like the Diamondback) would be good choices, but I'm looking for something a bit less pricey.

    Anyone have experience with a good current DA .22LR revolver that he can recommend as a trainer for centerfire DA revolvers?
    "Therefore, since the world has still... Much good, but much less good than ill,
    And while the sun and moon endure, Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would, And train for ill and not for good." -- A.E. Housman

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    Anybody have a favorite online vendor to buy the Advantage Arms conversion unit from ? I thought I got my G20 unit from Midway but that was a few years ago and I don't recall for sure. They don't carry them now. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAWBONES View Post
    I've not so far found much by way of currently-available .22LR DA revolvers which have trigger actions close to those of quality centerfire DA revolvers; all seem to have harder, "stacky" trigger pulls.

    I'm sure the current Smith 617 & maybe some of the older Colts (like the Diamondback) would be good choices, but I'm looking for something a bit less pricey.

    Anyone have experience with a good current DA .22LR revolver that he can recommend as a trainer for centerfire DA revolvers?
    Problem is, it takes a harder blow to fire a rimfire than a centerfire. So the mainspring is going to be stiffer anyhow, which shows in a harder pull and contributes to stacking.
    Your best bet would be to haunt the stores, shows, and sale sites for a sound but maybe not pretty K22.
    Last edited by Jim Watson; 10-04-2017 at 01:36 PM.
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    I'd love to get on for my 17.3 but some of those conversions are close to 500 dollars. AA conversions are virtually non-existent at the moment. I wish glock would do a .22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orionz06 View Post
    This! I love working back and forth between a SIRT and AA G17 to really dial things in. When we jump to center fire they're shocked that they can hit things with ease.

    I haven't worked with a 22 as much as I should but accuracy and the like were very good with it. Now that ammo prices have been down and I've got some 22 accumulated I may rethink this.
    Indeed. The dual lasers on the SIRT make for a very helpful diagnostic tool for me.

    I'm nobody special, and have no great skills. I just coach a few new shooters every now and then, and have found these tools to be helpful in that effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Watson View Post
    Problem is, it takes a harder blow to fire a rimfire than a centerfire. So the mainspring is going to be stiffer anyhow, which shows in a harder pull and contributes to stacking.
    Your best bet would be to haunt the stores, shows, and sale sites for a sound but maybe not pretty K22.
    Agree with the conclusion, but I believe in the K frame guns, the mainsprings are the same, so they should be similar trigger pull feel. The J frame Smith 22s never had as good of a trigger pull as a K frame.

    No experience on the current Ruger DA 22s to compare. Ive only done S&W DA 22s, and one Colt Diamondback in the era that they were shooter grade guns. Think I sold mine for about $225 in the mid 80s. I think the Smith K-22s had better trigger pulls.

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    Factory K22 and K38 springs are the same, but you can't mess with the .22 like you can a centerfire.
    Not that I feel a need to, my .22 Combat Masterpiece is just fine.

    I also briefly owned a Diamondback and saw no reason to stick with it.
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    My father started me on a Crossman .22 pellet pistol at age 12. At 14 he handed me a Hi Standard .22 revolver. At 15 he gave me a Hi Standard .22 target pistol. At 16 he gave me a pristine Walther P38. I'll be 70 soon. I had instruction along the way and "burned up" barrels and ammo with these handguns. My level of marksmanship is directly tied to a pellet pistol, .22 l.r. handguns, and a WW2 service pistol.

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