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    Exclamation Brown Bear 115gr Bimetal FMJ Lacquered Case

    Anybody use these or have issues with them? Would be shot from Gen 5 G-19. Just happened to 1,000 given to me. Figure at worst I can use them on zombies. Would like to use them up, but not if they suck and throw of my live fire training.Name:  image.jpg
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    Just ran a loose packed case of 115gr Barnaul through a Beretta 92a1 and a 3rd Gen G26. Had four or five misfires, groups weren't as tight as 147gr Speer Lawman, and it was a bit stinky - the loaded rounds had a distinct odor, not bad, but the smoke and residue on the guns was very smelly.

    No other issues.

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    I shoot them. I normally shoot my reloads but got a bunch of these on sale. I have been running them through my SIG MPX SBR with no issues. No issues popping primers with "stock" trigger systems. They were not reliable in a gamer G34 with trigger work - again, no issues with stock trigger systems.

    PS - so which class was the last hard Ranger class? I always thought it was 10-81 (aka 1981).
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    I bought two thousand rounds earlier this​ year and have about 600 left. Over the years I've shot a lot if it. The recent stuff has harder primers--maybe 1 in 150 fail to ignite in my Gen4 G19 with a stock trigger. It's dirty ammo and the noise/recoil seems to have more shot to shot variation than other ammo. I am certain that I will continue to buy it as all the negative aspects are outweighed by the low price.

    EDIT: The only time I won't shoot it is during a 2000 round challenge because the gun just gets too dirty by the end. Slide starts to slow down and reliability drops.

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    While you can get away with shooting that crap in your gun, why would you want to? Shoot good to great quality ammo and nothing else. My standard is, if I wouldn't drink their water, I won't shoot their ammo.
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    I bought 1000 rounds of it when SG had it on sale for $160. I had one bad primer and it was stinky, filthy shit. I'd have to dig up the targets to confirm but I think it shot 3 to 3 1/2 inch groups at 25 yards.

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    Shot quite a bit of it in my Gen 4 17 training gun. Works fine in that particular gun, and I'll probably shoot what's left in the basement in my 17.5.

    If you're running a lighter than normal striker spring, you could run into light strikes, as the primers appear to be a bit harder than normal commercial ammo.

    That said, factory loaded, brass cased practice ammo is widely available, and you can buy a case of 115 grain S&B 9x19 for 173 bucks a case from SG Ammo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ranger View Post
    I shoot them. I normally shoot my reloads but got a bunch of these on sale. I have been running them through my SIG MPX SBR with no issues. No issues popping primers with "stock" trigger systems. They were not reliable in a gamer G34 with trigger work - again, no issues with stock trigger systems.

    PS - so which class was the last hard Ranger class? I always thought it was 10-81 (aka 1981).
    Class 7-00 of course, lol
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    Everything is relative. I bought this ammo during the big ammo scare when any 9mm was heard to find plus reloading supplies were scarce. Agreed that we are in a great time to buy ammo.

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    Didn't think it was great ammo- just trying to guage how low. I agree that sometimes the cost of ammo would make it a necessary buy. My stepson couldn't fit it when he moved to Cali- so he gave it to me.
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