A bit tired tonight to type up the whole thing, so a TLDR version: has anyone been told that the new rules require to pick your checked luggage in person at the destination airport? Did I miss something?
A bit tired tonight to type up the whole thing, so a TLDR version: has anyone been told that the new rules require to pick your checked luggage in person at the destination airport? Did I miss something?
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My understanding is some airports require in person pickup of checked luggage with guns at an office, while some do not.Originally Posted by YVK
The Minority Marksman.
"When you meet a swordsman, draw your sword: Do not recite poetry to one who is not a poet."
-a Ch'an Buddhist axiom.
AA now tags bags with a visible indicator that the bag should be routed via the luggage office. Works that way about 65% of the time. So now I have to stand at the carousel until the last bags come off to make certain nobody steals my marked bag, then find the luggage office and show ID to retrieve the bag. Crappy process. Applies to all airports.
Last edited by RoyGBiv; 08-06-2017 at 05:38 AM.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
What are the chances that baggage employees and other inside personnel will learn about the markers, and end up stealing the suitcase/gun before it gets to the luggage office?
What a bunch of morons.....
Gun Free Zones Aren’t an Inhibition….they’re an Invitation.
I've inquired at both ends of the process (ticket counter and bag office) whether this tag system is used for anything other than guns and was told no. I pointed out the shortcomings of this to the agreement of all. The ticket counter lady was a permit holder and very much in agreement that it was a bad idea. Unfortunately, nobody I spoke to to has the authority to change company process. I should probably write a letter.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
They started doing this down here after the Ft. Lauderdale Airport shooting.
"Gunfighting is a thinking man's game. So we might want to bring thinking back into it."-MDFA
Beware of my temper, and the dog that I've found...
Delta now wraps the case in zip ties as well. Sometimes at the departure location, sometimes at the arrival before giving you your bag. Last time I flew they made me wait before I could pick up my bag because they didn't have enough ties. Someone eventually came, tied up my suit case(in front of me), then handed it to me. I then opened an outer pocket, pulled out a folding knife, and cut the ties off in front of the desk to make a point.
It's a dumb process that does nothing good.
I fly Delta about every two weeks. I keep a Spyderco Salt1 (Delica) in an outer pocket to cut the ties as soon as I leave the airport. The bag should be delivered to the baggage office, which adds about 10 minutes, IME. It's a stupid process.....appearance instead of security, like most TSA/airport stuff.
Ah, "steal me" tags and more red tape. Back to the future. Since I can no longer fly with my weapon on my person, my solution is the following if I don't have to fly over a body of water:
Just sayin'...
(Not mine but same model, year and color)
There's nothing civil about this war.
That's been my experience too, having flown 4 times in the past several months since Delta adopted this silly and passenger-inconveniencing "security theatre".
Sometimes my hardside checked-firearm bag arrives at the office on time (same as all the carousel luggage), sometimes not.
Even if it arrives in a timely fashion, there's typically an oh-so-slow-moving line of other passengers there ahead of me, with complicated and long-winded complaints, since the same "baggage inquiries" office handles both the "firearm pick-up" bags and inquiries re: lost or late luggage.
When I get to the front of the line, I have to show ID, then I'm "allowed" to take my bag, which all the while has been sitting out unprotected, next to the wall where anyone inclined could have snatched it.
I'm then permitted to leave the office with the bag, but there's no other oversight beyond that, that is, I'm not then escorted out of the building nor observed by security personnel.
And all this nonsense for the sake of catering to the false idea that extra trouble plus zip ties around your bag could have any real preventive effect on someone intent on accessing his sidearm from the bag and loading it in the airport bathroom, then committing mayhem!
And unfortunately, once an extra "security provision" of this sort is enacted, it's unlikely they'll later wise up and rescind it, since to do so would imply that it wasn't helpful or necessary in the first place.
I truly despise those people who can't think, who espouse false ideas or impose nonsense rules on others.
"Therefore, since the world has still... Much good, but much less good than ill,
And while the sun and moon endure, Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
I'd face it as a wise man would, And train for ill and not for good." -- A.E. Housman
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