I have a bit of a benefit of actually testing these types of guns in the field and building different variants back in the late 80’s and early 90’s, as well as having solid contacts who had very extensive field use with them. It allows for the non-TV based reality of what they can and cannot do. Many of these guns are very specialized weapons. Normally, that is a negative, unless you don’t lie to yourself and use it in exactly the area that it is good for.
The one positive about tv and movie education is I know a vast majority of it is utter b.s., most crooks do not. Our guys who used these often saw that the crooks were intimidated by them. Most traditional shotguns used in police work are often handled like the sporting guns they are based on. Shotguns aggressively handled and used with solid gun handling is picked up on by crooks.
Last edited by Dagga Boy; 09-17-2018 at 09:37 PM.
Just a Hairy Special Snowflake supply clerk with no field experience, shooting an Asymetric carbine as a Try Hard. Snarky and easily butt hurt. Favorite animal is the Cape Buffalo....likely indicative of a personality disorder.
"If I had a grandpa, he would look like Delbert Belton".
DB, your thoughts on 870 Tac 14 vs. ,V3 Tac 13 ?
Also general gun set up preferences please ?
Thanks.
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Various choices are available regarding brand and model:
-Remarms Tac-13
-Remarms Tac-14
-Mossberg Shockwave 14"
Set-up can be anything you want accessories and personal preference:
-grips, stocks, slings, ammo carriers, lights, sights, etc.
My set-up and choices would likely be different from yours and not right or wrong.
I can say I bought a Remington Tac-14, with its current configuration being a short-barrel-shotgun (SBS) with a straight-stock, although I've got a solid-pistol-grip-stock which I've swapped back and forth over the years (personal preference).
If I was to do it over, I'd probably choose the Mossberg Shockwave, as the company seems more stable, with potentially better support for parts and service.
I've not researched and have zero experience with Remarms' Tac-13 or its full-size V3 models.
Otherwise, buy one or even all of them; try them out; mod them as desired; and report back here with what you've learned and decided upon.
Well, since this threads been brought back from the dead, and I'm going to buy some version of these little 12 ga. to carry as a "bigger than a handgun" on a motorcycle as I have a place it'll fit I read thru it.
I can address the "Arizona time" because it's a real thing, not that anybody is interested
AZ never adopted Daylight Savings Time, so part of the year we are synced with MST, part of the year our clocks read the same as Pacific time zone. The (large) Navajo rez DID adopt DST so there's that.
Not DB but I do have all three of them. If you are leaving them with the birdshead grip, the mossberg is the clear winner due to the placement of the safety. You also have a front sight that can be replaced very easy, which you need as the front sights on these guns are way to small and hard to see if you are trying to actually aim it. The Tac-13 shoos the softest, but there is some ammo it won't run reliably (It sometimes chokes on 8 pellet flight control which is my preferred shotgun load). The tac-14 does take mini shells without any modification, but I think they make an "S" version now that takes the short shells without modification. If you are going to SBS it, I would go with the tac-13 and call it good. The vent rib gives you a lot more options for sights and mine was also tapped for optics rail which my shockwave and tac-14 are not.
Shockwave wears a big green dot front, Tac-14 has a glue on XS dot (so far it has held up to a few hundred rounds) and the tac-13 is stock with a Demonstrated concepts hand strap. All of my shotguns use velcro shot cards so I can move the card to the shotgun I would be using.