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    I had heard a few years back that NYPD wasn't issuing photo ID cards to retirees. I never had confirmation but that would preclude a retiree from LEOSA. Maybe that is what was at play in the book and the retired officer obtained a CC permit elsewhere in the state. LEOSA is a seriously nice perk and why I am all for national reciprocity for all CC permit holders. It would basically be the same without the annual qualification and ID,history requirements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poconnor View Post
    It was my understanding that a department can refuse to give you the required ID card and you do not have standing to compel them to issue one.
    To wit:

    1. Photographic Identification: DHS Components currently allow
    law enforcement officers who are retiring in good standing to retain their
    credentials (containing their photograph, name, signature and position
    title) stamped or perforated with the word "Retired." To minimize costs
    and administrative burden, Components may utilize these "Retired"
    credentials as the "Photographic Identification" required by the LEOSA.
    Components are also authorized, but not required, to issue an additional
    photographic identification, specifically for LEOSA purposes, containing
    the retiree's photograph, name, signature, and the title of the law
    enforcement position from which he or she retired, proceeded by the word
    "Retired," and the name of the Component or Subcomponent from which
    the individual retired (e.g., "Retired Special Agent, U.S. Customs
    Service"). Components are authorized to issue these additional LEOSA
    identification cards to retirees from their present Components and to
    retirees from those parts of their predecessor agencies that were merged
    into their present Components (e.g., Border Patrol into U.S. Customs &
    Border Protection [CBP], Customs and INS investigational elements into
    U.S. Immigration & Customs Enforcement [ICE]). All LEOSA identification
    cards issued must meet Department-wide identification standards in effect
    at the time of issuance. Because of unavailability of or excessive
    cost/difficulty of retrieving older records, Components may establish cutoff
    dates, and advise retirees who retired before those dates that their
    requests for LEOSA identification cards cannot be honored.
    2. Certification Issued by the State: Under no circumstances will
    DHS Components perform or assist with annual firearms testing for their
    retirees.
    To meet LEOSA requirements, law enforcement retirees from
    DHS Components and their predecessor agencies must "be tested or
    otherwise be found ...to meet ...standards” by a non-DHS entity authorized
    to issue "a certification ....by the State in which the [retiree] resides"
    indicating that the retiree has "been tested or otherwise found by the State
    to meet the standards established by the State for training and
    qualification for active law enforcement officers..." The availability of such
    "certifications" varies by State, and it is the responsibility of the individual
    DHS law enforcement retiree to determine and meet the requirements of
    his or her state of residence for obtaining this "certification."
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