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    NFA Registry is seriously flawed

    Of Arms and the Law (link below) has an interesting post about how much the NFA registry sucks after an audit turned up some bad info. Thought y'all might find the whole mess interesting.

    The ATF inspectors' comments are damning:

    "When I conduct an NFA inventory reconciliation, I start knowing that the NRA register will be incomplete or inaccurate."

    "The discrepancies in the NFRTR makes it impossible to verify the onsite inventory."

    "I encounter discrepancies on a daily basis."

    "In one instance, I received an NFRTR inventory report with more than 60 errors on behalf of the NFA branch."

    "A majority of the FFLs I have inspected, NFA is a small portion of their business. However, I spend the most time on the NFA portion due to the NFRTR being inaccurate most of the time."

    "It creates embarrassment to the agency and the IOI because we are always wrong."

    Original source: http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/20...a_database.php

    Report: BATF OIG survenys on NFA best.pdf
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    This is not news. I thought this was common knowledge.

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    It's not new info and is commonly known in the industry. IIRC several criminal prosecutions have been derailed because the defense attorney was sharp and knew the issue.

    This report, though, is new to me and could be important Brady material if it hasn't been turned over in some NFA prosecutions - and I guarantee it hasn't.

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    sure would be a shame if someone spilled their covfefe all over that rolodex...
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    Is the registry paper, or does it get put on microfiche like 4473s?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hufnagel View Post
    sure would be a shame if someone spilled their covfefe all over that rolodex...
    They apparently discovered computers in the early Aughties, which is why for a brief, shining moment around '06-'07, turnaround times for Form 4's were sixty days or less.
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    They can't even run a 4473 check to find an original owner............I've personally watched them take over a year to try to find one. When they did, they were wrong.

    I mean, seriously, who honestly believes the government can keep track of shit like that?
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    Only people who have never worked for the government, I'd bet.
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